Anyway, what I manage to do is to stay in round shape, as more things are needed like maintaining a good diet.
Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
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Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#102Just to give some context, I've been a marathon runner for 7 years. I have a PB of 3:24, and I'm training for a sub 3 hour marathon right now (logging around 70 - 120km per week). I run 6 times a week, and work out at the gym 3 times a week. I consider myself to be in my all-time peak athletic shape right now. I don't mean to be rude, but this comes from years of people picking fights with me about exercising and eas…
In shape or fit is several levels below what you describe. Personally, I find running a marathon near lunacy. You may like it, but it's not healthy in the long run.
I disagree. Not all marathon runners are made equal. Talking about the long run means an extreme training routine that is consistent through a long period of time.
The vast majority of marathon runners are casual runners, rarely logging more than 40km a week. And after a while most simply stop or reduce significantly their training to casual (in terms of intensity) but consistent training.
AFAIK, most research about negative effects of marathon running is related to professional athletes, who have a career in running. Endurance athletes usually start from a very young age, and peak at around 30-40. That's 20 to 30 years of extreme training. And the key aspect here is oxidative stress, which means they are aging faster. There's also a risk that your heart will change in shape to respond to a greater demand, and that may lead to conditions such as arrythmia.
I think I can speak for most of the amateur athletes I know. We're all well aware of the risks. There's just no point in not taking them.
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#103It took months to get up to speed with a lot of initial back pain, but the strength gained has done away with back issues I used to have.
Some tips:
- use a good BT heart rate monitor the like Polar H10 (can also be used to measure Heart Rate Variability/HRV as a measure of fitness) to avoid overexertion and record sessions with the Concept2 ErgData app to see progress
- follow the stretching advice from Concept2, at beginning and end of session
- ease into the workouts over weeks and learn the right technique, e.g. from YT channels like Dark Horse rowing to avoid back injury and slowly build muscle
- the newest Concept2 has a phone/pad holder. I got a second holder for my phone to be able to follow and record the session with ErgData while watching stuff on an iPad. In the lastest iteration I’ve added an old monitor with an Apple TV. But now trying to Dopamine diet and ‘do nothing’ while rowing.
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#104Have you considered purchasing your own weight rack? Rogue sells a few pre-made one's that fold into the wall and occupy little space. It's a larger upfront investment but you can have free weight gear in your house and it will pay for itself fast. If you're outside the USA, you can usually find a local welder / shop to make one for you. Outside of strength training, you could go for long walks (I enjoy these). If yo…
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#105Abs are made in the kitchen. Calories in vs calories out.
Gym is good for tone and breaking a plateau, but you aren't likely to lose a lot in the gym only without a CICO change.
Went from 260 to 140 lbs over a year.
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#106Intermittent fasting to lose, keto to maintain. Abs are made in the kitchen. Calories in vs calories out. Gym is good for tone and breaking a plateau, but you aren't likely to lose a lot in the gym only without a CICO change. Went from 260 to 140 lbs over a year.
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#107Buy your own squat rack, barbells and weights. You won't get much done in 30 mins though. Decide whether this is a priority for you or not.
In 30 mins you can do a pretty decent strength training workout IMO (once youve gotten accustomed to it). You can easily hit one body part (chest/shoulder/bicep/back/legs/etc) in this time, if not two.
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#108As a strange coincidence, I just did my pull-ups for the day just minutes ago. I have the pull-up bar and the elastic band under my bed. I take them and mount them on a doorframe, and when I'm done put them back under the bed.
You may ask, why not straight pull-ups. I just can't do that many. With a resistance band you can do many more, and you utilize the muscles more completely.
[1] https://www.walmart.com/ip/XPRT-Fitness-Resistance-Bands-Pul...
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#109Teach yourself 1-2 compound:ish movements per rough muscle group really well. Do 2-3 sets of each, pushing yourself fairly hard. Gtfo.
This never takes more than 30 minutes and with that few movements, there's no queuing for the next piece.
Gym still sucks. Training sucks. I don't love the toothbrush either.
Re: Ask HN: I hate gym. How to stay in shape?
#110- Playlists. I enjoy music but have learned to more-or-less limit listening to music during “gym time”. I don’t look forward to the gym, I look forward to my gym playlists.
- Looking at it as a balance of time. I frequently have to tell myself “It’s 1/16th of my day”. I’m in a position where (thankfully) I almost always enjoy the other time in any given day so rationalizing “It’s one of the few things I have to push myself to do, and for an hour a day that’s not bad”.
- Pacing inside or walking outside during conference calls. Almost everyone in my immediate family (for whatever reason) naturally “randomly walks around” when on the phone. The standardization of video from COVID has cut into this a bit but it’s not unusual for me to log at least an hour of walking a day (inside or outside) because of meetings and conference calls. It’s pretty amazing to randomly walk around your house in loops when you’re occupied on a call and realize you’ve ended up walking a few miles. I’m at the point now when my phone rings I immediately stand up and start walking - and in a given week that really adds up.
- Progress is VERY slow but at a certain point external validation really helps. It’s very vain but I’m at a point now when people who haven’t seen me in years routinely remark “Wow, you got HUGE”. I don’t consider myself “HUGE” but I’m still very happy with myself in that many people would consider me in better physical condition nearing 40 than 20. At this point I feel like I need to (at least) maintain this level - even though I know that’s not really possible (less TRT or similar) with age.
- Personal trainer as a “jump start”. My progress rapidly advanced after seeing a personal trainer twice a week. VERY expensive (to the point I realize it’s out of reach for most people) but what I would do is essentially copy a personal training workout another 1-2x in the week (alternating) to accelerate my progress.
- Sleep and eat well. Especially for strength training, sleep is where progress is actually made. The good news is sleep is better and more natural anyway when you’re physically tired. Eating well (or just better) is also easier when you feel good from exercising and know you’ll end up feeling gross if you eat poorly.
- Perfect is the enemy of good. 30 minutes of exercise (even just moving around) everyday puts you an fairly elite portion of the population (at least in the US). Eating relatively poorly for a “cheat meal” (or for me day - I LOVE food) really isn’t that much of a setback compared to most western diets (double so for the US).
- Accepting age. Just yesterday I was at the gym working out next to two girls who appeared to be in good shape (college town - they were probably teenagers). There’s a grocery store immediately next to my gym and I ran into them again at checkout. I was buying salad and chicken, they were literally buying a gigantic bag of candy and a big bottle of soda. That’s youth for you.
- It gets addicting. At this point when a study is done on poor diet or lack of exercise (or when I just look around) I’m in total amazement what eating poorly and not doing any physical exercise must feel like. I know when I eat poorly and don’t exercise (really busy with work, vacation, etc) I start to physically feel sick towards the end and really look forward to getting back to my routine.
- Fitness tracker. My Apple watch calorie goal is 1k calories/day. I usually exceed it just with these tips but on the occasional day where I don't even break half every time I check the time I think "that's not good".
- Caffeine. I take caffeine pills so I'm able to tightly control my caffeine intake. 100mg in the morning (replacing morning coffee for most) and 200mg in the afternoon-ish. There's something about caffeine pills. I suspect it's from being an "immediate dose" vs progressively drinking coffee over some time period. In the afternoons when I take 200mg I can feel it "kick in" - to to the tune of "oh, there it is". Really helps to jump the lag you can feel through the day and (for me at least) it's almost "too much" - to the point where I feel like I need to burn it off with physical activity. 300mg/day still puts me well within medically recommended daily caffeine intake. Let's not kid ourselves - caffeine is a drug and it's great. That almost high feeling jump start afternoon kick is also a great way to motivate a gym trip - telling myself "You're taking these and you'll enjoy it but you better promise yourself you're going to the gym after". Plus they're CHEAP (a month of caffeine for < $10), always available (no finding a coffee shop, figuring out what to do when traveling, etc) and always consistent. I'm actually kind of amazed people randomly brew or purchase coffee and consume a drug without having any idea how much.