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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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post #5

If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.

The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, it’s the same for IRL streams. Channels get suspended for what others do. There’s a food truck livestreaming, any kind of nudity or visible underwear results in the stream going offline, VOD deletion and going online again (or a "censored" overlay in case they see it coming), 2 girls flashing still got a warning, one drunk dude with his pants falling down resulted in a 24h ban. What are they supposed to learn fro…

And one girl literally had sex on stream and got suspended for 7 days. Or was it 14?

Well, unlike my and the posts example that is in her power to change (IIRC it was an accident, the stream was not supposed to be on) ;)

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#103

So comedy cannot be offensive anymore? When did that happen?

I've been hearing this for at least 30 years, and yet Dave Chapelle won a Grammy literally last night despite being quite controversial on this very topic.

It's also a bit nonsensical to whine about people getting offended by comedy while simultaneously saying comedy should be allowed to be offensive. If you do offensive comedy then some people are going to get offended by it. If they didn't then it wouldn't be offensive!

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#104
post #55

I realize this wasn't ChatGPT, and in fact the self-censorship is a big selling point of ChatGPT/OpenAI (to the chagrin of quite a few people), but this does throw a wrench into people claiming that it's not a big deal if an LLM gives a bad response to a prompt. Much like a self-driving car AI making a "mistake" can kill a passenger or pedestrian, a LLM mistakenly including slurs in your weekly ChatGPT-powered market…

This just calls for more sophisticated systems for dealing with AI generated content.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#105
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you suggesting that Twitch should ignore accounts that violate the ToS, so long as it was a computer that violated the terms as opposed to a person?

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If computers can’t learn from mistakes, how do machine learning systems ever improve the quality of what they generate?

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#106
Uncharacteristically off-topic comment from me, I guess, but when do humans get to a point where we no longer have to appeal to the lowest common denominator? How are our relationships supposed to improve if we dub anything that makes us uncomfortable as "taboo" and steer clear of it? I get that on the Internet there is a lot of anonymity (though less than there used to be) that folks tend to abuse, but at the same time, this is the most public and far-reaching platform that has existed in all of human history. How can we take social issues that are already difficult within the same family unit and have a well-adjusted conversation about them at least in the public arena? Even if we disagree? And if the platform we have can't be used to bring people with different views closer together then what good is it?

All that to say, I feel like there's an element of human empathy, respect, civility? Whatever you want to call it, it's just missing today. Maybe it's always been missing. I saw a commercial on TV yesterday, literally suggesting that telling someone they left their Starbucks on the roof of their car as they drive off is a heart-felt touching moment. That's just common decency, but we're so self-centered that even just being "civil" is this monumental effort.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#107
post #5

If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.

The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

[flagged]

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#108
post #58
post #5

If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.

I agree, but it’s ambiguous enough to be poor taste and feel uncomfortable. My first instinct is that Twitch is overreacting, but I can see why they need to be pretty draconian to avoid endless boundary-pushing from jerks.

My stand with most (not all) things like this is that intent matters; there are a lot of things (especially with jokes/comedy) where nuance and discernment are key.

I disagree with your draconian approach (but I understand where it’s coming from) because I do not think that issues like these should be just swept under the rug.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#109

Explanation from their Discord (more info/links below) “Earlier tonight, we started having an outage using OpenAI’s GPT-3 Davinci model, which caused the show to exhibit errant behaviors (you may have seen empty rooms cycling through). OpenAI has a less sophisticated model, Curie, that was the predecessor to Davinci. When davinci started failing, we switched over to Curie to try to keep the show running without any d…

A seemingly innocuous engineering change led to some drastic consequences. Imagine the other more critical production applications who have made the same reasonable engineering decision.

Drastic is a bit strong. A cartoon character on an infinite streaming tv experiment made a bad joke (which appears to be more of a bad meta-joke). The fact that the stakes are so low is presumably why they changed the model. If it was flying an airplane or something that mattered, they probably would have taken more care. The change they made had a completely acceptable risk / consequence tradeoff

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#110

Explanation from their Discord (more info/links below) “Earlier tonight, we started having an outage using OpenAI’s GPT-3 Davinci model, which caused the show to exhibit errant behaviors (you may have seen empty rooms cycling through). OpenAI has a less sophisticated model, Curie, that was the predecessor to Davinci. When davinci started failing, we switched over to Curie to try to keep the show running without any d…

This is why, like with every live show, you should have a delay and moderation so you can intervene before unwanted things are broadcasted and get you into trouble.
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