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7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by csomar »

jamiek88 wrote: post #100
csomar wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two ways to verify this: - Enough data that the correlation becomes strong enough. - The physics community chimes in? I mean the effect could only be due to gravity unless there is another mechanism we don't understand. But given how small the earth is, and how big other planets are, I'd suspect the physics people to see this effect somewhere else?

No, absolutely not - gravity is an inverse distance squared force. The sun dominates our gravity environment and planets at those distances have negligible effects (really effectively zero) certainly not seismic size perturbations! The gravitational force from the other planets does slightly affect the Earth's orbit , but the gravitational pull from the other planets and the Moon is still very small. The gravitationa…

But isn’t this earthquake microscopic in the scale of the earth?

But I get your point. The sun should be responsible for most of these earthquakes (if gravity was to play a role) unless its gravitational field is prefectly uniform.

I better give up on this because my understanding of gravity and general relativity is based on youtube videos.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by patrickdavey »

sedatk wrote: post #3

It was followed by another 6.7 which is already significant by itself. Devastating news.

Having lived through the Christchurch quake, this was the thing I hadn't properly appreciated. It's a sequence, so, you can expect literally thousands of quakes after a big one like this.

It's completely and utterly headwrecking! Every time one happens you don't know whether it's going to build into a big one.

My heart goes out to them.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by rippercushions »

midoridensha wrote: post #92
pyuser583 wrote: post #51

Oh wow, that’s terrible. My spellchecker needs to be updated because it doesn’t want me writing “Turkiye.”

"Turkey" is the correct spelling in English. The Turkish government doesn't get to dictate what their country is called in other languages.

They can ask politely though, and spellings and names do change over time.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by kqr »

cjensen wrote: post #45
anonu wrote: post #33

This guy somehow predicted it? https://twitter.com/hogrbe/status/1621479563720118273?t=uZuu... Lucky or good?

That's not a prediction that can be evaluated. For example, I could say "there will be a 7+ magnitude quake somewhere in the Pacific Rim tomorrow" and if I publish the same prediction every day it won't be long until my prediction is true. I might even be right the very first time. A real prediction should include exact time period, magnitude, and geographic area. And every prediction made must be documented. This le…

You're missing one important thing: confidence level. You can probably make a 7+ magnitude prediction every day as long as your confidence in it is -- I guess, not knowing much about the Pacific Rim -- less than 1 %.

It's the 10 %, 20 %, 50 % confidence level predictions you have to be a bit more sparing with!

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by jrockway »

cjensen wrote: post #45
anonu wrote: post #33

This guy somehow predicted it? https://twitter.com/hogrbe/status/1621479563720118273?t=uZuu... Lucky or good?

That's not a prediction that can be evaluated. For example, I could say "there will be a 7+ magnitude quake somewhere in the Pacific Rim tomorrow" and if I publish the same prediction every day it won't be long until my prediction is true. I might even be right the very first time. A real prediction should include exact time period, magnitude, and geographic area. And every prediction made must be documented. This le…

> if you look at the predictions made on his twitter stream

The way to do this is to make the same prediction every day, and then delete the tweet when the prediction ends up not coming true. That way, when someone goes and looks at your profile, you'll have a 100% track record. (Or probably better, just a prediction mixed in with random pictures from your dog walks.)

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by booi »

vbezhenar wrote: post #95
gorkemcetin wrote: post #15

I have never seen an earthquake covering such a wide area. I confirm collapsing buildings in at least 5 cities. There is a big chaos on social media as well - many people asking for help since they are stuck under debris. What a disaster!

Why did the buildings collapse? They don't have a build code for seismic-dangerous zones? Or the possibility of this earthquake was never predicted?

It’s pretty hard to build for a 7.8. That’s ridiculously strong, similar to SF 1908 which pretty much destroyed the entire city..

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by midoridensha »

rippercushions wrote: post #103
midoridensha wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Turkey" is the correct spelling in English. The Turkish government doesn't get to dictate what their country is called in other languages.

They can ask politely though, and spellings and names do change over time.

They can ask, but their request is stupid. The English language does not have any kind of facility for umlauted characters.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by ajdude »

pg_bot wrote: post #47
anonu wrote: post #33

This guy somehow predicted it? https://twitter.com/hogrbe/status/1621479563720118273?t=uZuu... Lucky or good?

Hmm this guy's focus on planetary movements and lunar geometry light up the parts of my brain reserved for detecting quackery. I would bet that he got extremely lucky with his timing.

Years ago I made an observation that an earthquake would happen based on a near earth object. It ended up being the one in Chile. I do wonder if there's some kind of correlation considering that green comet is flying by

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by gbil »

booi wrote: post #106
vbezhenar wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did the buildings collapse? They don't have a build code for seismic-dangerous zones? Or the possibility of this earthquake was never predicted?

It’s pretty hard to build for a 7.8. That’s ridiculously strong, similar to SF 1908 which pretty much destroyed the entire city..

The location of the earthquake is pretty much on top of a plate fault so earthquakes are to be expected, especially big ones But the problem is not that you can't build for big earthquakes, more that the whole area is a low income one with everything that along

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by lmz »

midoridensha wrote: post #92
pyuser583 wrote: post #51

Oh wow, that’s terrible. My spellchecker needs to be updated because it doesn’t want me writing “Turkiye.”

"Turkey" is the correct spelling in English. The Turkish government doesn't get to dictate what their country is called in other languages.

Why is this kind of argument valid for countries but not for pronouns?
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