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The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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I can’t cite examples, but in my long experience, ever since the Osborne computer was released, it was understood that if you talked about a future product, people would simply stop buying the current product because they were waiting for the replacement.

That was a myth http://www.thesoftwareunderground.com/2005/06/osborne-effect...

I’ll be damned, thanks. Cringely is a far better source than I.

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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Was there a twitter thread about this or something? I'd love to read more. I actually don't think I've heard the name Balsamiq in 10 years

No, I was just obsessed with how he did it, so I swallowed every piece of info I could've until it was clear. It was manufactured, which is the best approach.

I was caught up in this and ended up purchasing. Links verifying your claim?

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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No, I was just obsessed with how he did it, so I swallowed every piece of info I could've until it was clear. It was manufactured, which is the best approach.

I was caught up in this and ended up purchasing. Links verifying your claim?

Very sparse. You'll have to piece it together through interviews he gave around that time. His opsec is good but not good enough.

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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No, I was just obsessed with how he did it, so I swallowed every piece of info I could've until it was clear. It was manufactured, which is the best approach.

What is the product its self just not as popular as he claimed, or what? I actually don’t understand what he got out of the ruse.

It wasn't a ruse. People genuinely liked the app BUT he had a manufactured pr push. It wasn't organic.

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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> The “open startup” idea always seemed superficial to me, founders seeking external validation. Similarly to me is the "democratizing X" startup. Those were never not about the same thing as every other startup: VC money and getting a return. But it was trendy to was "we're democratizing ".

For me democratizing can mean "We have done something hard and we are going to share the benefits of it for minimal gain". The business is not lucrative for others to copy because margins are low. OpenAI is a capped profit company. https://openai.com/blog/openai-lp/ . If they become as big as everyone today thinks they will become, they can be democratizing AI. Also note that, lot of progress in AI has happened becau…

An 100x return on investment is hardly a cap, or a minimal gain.

OpenAI are a traditional for profit company, milking PR like “open source”, and “non-profit”, without being either.

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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For me democratizing can mean "We have done something hard and we are going to share the benefits of it for minimal gain". The business is not lucrative for others to copy because margins are low. OpenAI is a capped profit company. https://openai.com/blog/openai-lp/ . If they become as big as everyone today thinks they will become, they can be democratizing AI. Also note that, lot of progress in AI has happened becau…

An 100x return on investment is hardly a cap, or a minimal gain. OpenAI are a traditional for profit company, milking PR like “open source”, and “non-profit”, without being either.

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Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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In general, it doesn’t matter whether you’re open to the public or not. What matters much more is that you’re open with your own employees. The “open startup” idea always seemed superficial to me, founders seeking external validation. Over the long-term, what really matters is keeping your people (employees) happy, and one very easy way to do that is to show that you appreciate and respect them by sharing your compan…

> Over the long-term, what really matters is keeping your people (employees) happy customers

Yes, but you do that through product + service. Customers don’t really care about your metrics.

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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What is the product its self just not as popular as he claimed, or what? I actually don’t understand what he got out of the ruse.

It wasn't a ruse. People genuinely liked the app BUT he had a manufactured pr push. It wasn't organic.

Then I say more power to him. It was masterfully done, and I ended up becoming a paying customer

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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post #108

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It wasn't a ruse. People genuinely liked the app BUT he had a manufactured pr push. It wasn't organic.

Then I say more power to him. It was masterfully done, and I ended up becoming a paying customer

Same. If it wasn't clear I wasn't saying it's a bad thing just that people should understand being open solely in the context of beneficial pr.

Re: The golden era of being an open startup is gone

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post #64

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I personally find the lack of vaporware from Apple refreshing. With Apple, when you hear about the thing you can go out and buy the thing. From too many companies you hear about cool tech, only to find it disappointing or hobbled a year later when they actually get to release.

>I personally find the lack of vaporware from Apple refreshing. They recently nixed their AR products that had been hinted at for forever, and the 'Apple Car' was 'right around the corner' sitting as a boogey-man juxtaposed to Tesla's efforts for years before being cancelled. They're more reliable than most groups, but post-Jobs Apple loves to mention fantasy stuff that consumers will never see, it's part of their hy…

> but post-Jobs Apple loves to mention fantasy stuff

Apple never does this. They've never mentioned AR hardware, they've never mentioned Apple Car or anything else to that effect.

You're talking about the media at large which does this for the purpose of speculation.

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