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Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by morpheos137 »

oefrha wrote: post #91
idlewords wrote: post #45

I just wanted to take a moment to say what a lifechanging tool sci-hub has been for research. In doing research for a big writing project on Mars I ended up with a folder of maybe 800 scientific and technical papers, some of them dating back to 1910. This is material it would have been hard to collect even with access to a major university library. Online publishers, meanwhile, demand extortionate per-paper fees for…

> Online publishers, meanwhile, demand extortionate per-paper fees for access I just don’t understand how they can be so shameless about it. For instance, one single paper on Phys. Rev. Lett. costs $35 without a subscription. $35 for a few pages of PDF; ~100% margin for the publisher and the publisher alone. (And the publisher here, APS, is not-for-profit.) Who the fuck came up with this kind of pricing?

Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's dad.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-b...

Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by Dalewyn »

gruez wrote: post #95
breck wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fact that you casually lump them together suggests that you don't understand what you're even arguing against. On the contrary, the fact you don't see how they both are at play suggests the opposite. Patented drugs are always inferior, but the truth has a hard time getting out due to (c)opywrong laws. ( https://longbets.org/855/ ) > Alright I'll bite. Can you elaborate on how they're "worse than useless"? Follo…

>On the contrary, the fact you don't see how they both are at play suggests the opposite Doing a quick skim of the linked article, the basis of argument seems to be: "copyright laws protecting Purdue from true and damaging information about the dangers of the medication from leaking and spreading" Which, so far as I can tell has nothing backing it. Do you mind elaborating what specific aspect of copyright law hindere…

>I can write a book about the Theory of Relativity right now and it would get copyright protection, but that doesn't mean I can charge people for using e=mc^2. It just means people can't copy the contents of my book.

Another, simpler way to describe this is: Disney can copyright Mickey Mouse, but Disney can't copyright the concept of an anthropomorphized mouse.

Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by cellularmitosis »

joelthelion wrote: post #103

Given how useful scihub obviously is, how could we reasonably make it legal? Is there any chance we could fix the legal system to make scihub officially possible?

A law stating that papers resulting from publicly funded research must be freely redistributable should do the trick. Just a matter of finding the political will.

Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by janosdebugs »

MrOwnPut wrote: post #40
dimmke wrote: post #10

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You know what? You're right. That's literally the only proposed blockchain application I think I've ever read that I think would actually work.

It's been working... for awhile now. But no traction here because... crypto = bad. There's Handshake, ENS, and UnstoppableDomains. Brave supports .eth domains out-of-the-box, hopefully Handshake soon. For Handshake you can use a local resolver that reads the blockchain or use NextDNS. NFTs aren't just for art, y'know. They have real [digital] world use cases for ownership, like DNS.

There is no traction because it's a vanity item. Most people/businesses need their websites to work on the average Joe/Jane's mobile phone, not just on some specialized browser that only a few people use. (=Chrome, Safari, Edge)

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Post by B4n4n4 »

madars wrote: post #53

Little known fact: your Sci-Hub downloads are not private - https://sci-hub.ru/stats has historic access logs with IP addresses, paper identifiers, and timestamps, and plans to publish more logs in the future.

"I can give statistics, as they say, in a hurry, which the Yandex counter collected, according to the number of unique visitors to the site: from September 5, 2011 to December 31, 2015 - 7.92 million from January 01, 2016 to December 31, 2018 - 67.5 million from January 01, 2019 to December 15, 2021 – 119 million" Source: https://pressunity.org/archives/18381

Sci-hub's offshore host: "DDoS-Guard is a Russian Internet infrastructure company which provides DDoS protection and web hosting services.[1][2] Researchers and journalists have alleged that many of DDoS-Guard's clients are engaged in criminal activity, and investigative reporter Brian Krebs reported in January 2021 that a "vast number" of the websites hosted by DDoS-Guard are "phishing sites and domains tied to cybercrime services or forums online".[3][1] Some of DDoS-Guard's notable clients have included the Palestinian Islamic militant nationalist movement Hamas, American alt-tech social network Parler, and various groups associated with the Russian state.[3][4][1]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS-Guard

Sci-Hub In 2017, a U.S. court ordered all internet infrastructure companies to stop doing business with Sci-Hub, the shadow library which shares scholarly papers without regard to copyright.[22][23] As a result, Sci-Hub switched from Cloudflare to DDoS-Guard for DDoS protection.[23][8] Sci-Hub founder Alexandra Elbakyan says that DDoS-Guard initially contacted her, and that the company volunteered that it works with piracy sites including Rutracker.org.[23] Some experts identify Sci-Hub's use of DDoS-Guard as a security risk given its involvement with the Russian state and that it could monitor Sci-Hub's traffic.[23] Elbakyan says she pays DDoS-Guard about US$1,000 per month (one sixth of Sci-Hub's operating budget), all for DDoS protection; an expert found this amount credible.[23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS-Guard#Sci-Hub

Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by kossTKR »

morpheos137 wrote: post #101
oefrha wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Online publishers, meanwhile, demand extortionate per-paper fees for access I just don’t understand how they can be so shameless about it. For instance, one single paper on Phys. Rev. Lett. costs $35 without a subscription. $35 for a few pages of PDF; ~100% margin for the publisher and the publisher alone. (And the publisher here, APS, is not-for-profit.) Who the fuck came up with this kind of pricing?

Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's dad. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-b...

Lately the fringe theories that we live in a world run by absolutely perverted and demented psychos actively worshipping exploitation and sadism doesn't seem that far out when you start to connect the dots of who's who in the in the highest echelons.

Then they wash themselves with philanthropy and everyone praises them. The masses are easy to steer and have no interest in the esoteric power structures or foreign worldviews of the absolute elite.

Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by dr_dshiv »

morpheos137 wrote: post #101
oefrha wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Online publishers, meanwhile, demand extortionate per-paper fees for access I just don’t understand how they can be so shameless about it. For instance, one single paper on Phys. Rev. Lett. costs $35 without a subscription. $35 for a few pages of PDF; ~100% margin for the publisher and the publisher alone. (And the publisher here, APS, is not-for-profit.) Who the fuck came up with this kind of pricing?

Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's dad. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-b...

Wow. Amazing article.

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Post by verdverm »

NetOpWibby wrote: post #74
verdverm wrote: post #49

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They decided they did not want to work with the existing system and the only option was a complete replacement, rather than a dual system. They shot themselves in the foot. On top of that, they guy who ruined freenode took over Handshake and ruined that too. They lost several core developers along the way

You're operating under several incorrect pretenses. Handshake works with the existing DNS. "The guy who ruined Freenode" had a minor part in the creation of Handshake but does not control it. The core developers of Handshake are still active.

Sorry, but my best friend was one of the core developers who left. I have heard tons of stories that the public has not. Another core dev died. I said several, not all...

Yes, handshake can work alongside, technically, but the leadership did not want to, in practice

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