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Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding (when I briefly looked into this about 5 years ago) is that Paypal doesn't support sending money for donations unless it's actual charitable donations - accepting 'donations' for an npm package is against paypal terms of service. My guess is that Paypal finally got around telling github to stop accepting this.

What is an actual charitable donation?

only one the government says is “charitable”

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#102
post #66

I wanted to close my Paypal account just now and they have very dark patterns going on. I wanted to send the remainder of my balance to my bank account, in order to do so I had to couple my bank account. It directly presented me with the info that if I were to couple the account, Paypal will have 90 days of access to my balance and all my transactions. How about no. Luckily there was a link on the bottom “link it in…

Plaid does very much the same thing, and is used by, among others, CashApp. In the name of making a seamless service they at least used to ask you to enter the credentials to your e-banking portal, then scrape your transaction history and balance. I would hope that by now they have developed a better system that is not nearly so dangerous, but I honestly have no desire to find out. There was a way to instead use your bank routing and account numbers (which is still a riskier proposition than, say, a credit card), but you wouldn't even see that option unless you made a search that returned no results.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#103
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and there it was, my bank account number. I was able to transfer to it without coupling after all So you could totally transfer without coupling... the real problem was you didn't know your bank account number?

I am curious if people with your attitude think it is OK to try and be sneaky to trick users like that, or if you are not aware that is what is happening?

It just seemed weird that GP described this whole ordeal about how to couple accounts, and then glosses over any process after they found their account number. They have edited their post since.

I don't understand your reply at all.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#104
post #88

We hear a lot from people who have had a bad experience using PayPal. But is there anyone who has had a good experience, either as a merchant, or as a customer?

Customer. Use it for online shopping when Apple Pay isn’t available. Also for “friends” payments buying used things from Craigslist or FB market.

No complaints.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#105
post #4

Really GitHub, no details? That looks like something which could easily hugely decrease donations for _some_ people. (For many it probably won't be to big of a change given that most sponsors are likely either companies or well-earning IT people.)

My understanding (when I briefly looked into this about 5 years ago) is that Paypal doesn't support sending money for donations unless it's actual charitable donations - accepting 'donations' for an npm package is against paypal terms of service. My guess is that Paypal finally got around telling github to stop accepting this.

You can accept payments as a non-registered charity, in the UK at least. Not sure how it works internationally.

https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/not-for-profit-2

The problem is that PayPal’s rules are vague and opaque, and they apply them arbitrarily. You have no real recourse to complain about one of their decisions. I can maybe see how it’s painful for GitHub to deal with them.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#106
post #88

We hear a lot from people who have had a bad experience using PayPal. But is there anyone who has had a good experience, either as a merchant, or as a customer?

I've never had a bad experience with PayPal and there ain't no way I'm handing out my raw credit card info to another website so they can get hacked and leak it.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#109
post #88

We hear a lot from people who have had a bad experience using PayPal. But is there anyone who has had a good experience, either as a merchant, or as a customer?

Yeah, I've sold over $1M worth of stuff on eBay since 2011 and have mostly good things to say about them.

Much better support than eBay or Amazon, at least for merchants, and the few times I've needed them as a customer they've helped me out. Even one time when I was socially engineered into ticking the "item received" when I hadn't received the item, they helped me get a refund.

I think a lot of the bad stories you hear about them come from people upset at the customer being always given the benefit of the doubt, even in suspicious fraud situations (e.g. where the customer has 3 positive feedback and the seller has 10,000). It's bullshit, but from a business perspective it's a small price to pay so that your customers don't think "am I about to get scammed?" every time they click the Buy It Now button.

If you drill down a bit too, you'll find a sizable minority of people who lost their shit at support staff then act surprised when they don't get any help.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#110
post #88

We hear a lot from people who have had a bad experience using PayPal. But is there anyone who has had a good experience, either as a merchant, or as a customer?

I use it for small recurring payments to some online services. Some online services only accept Paypal so I just pay via Paypal using my stored Amex/Visa details and Paypal process the payment and passes it on to the service operator. Does exactly what it says on the tin. Also means I only need to update my card details in one place when I switch cards or get a replacement card. No problems and in some ways the UX is better than using a traditional Visa/MC/Amex processor.
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