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The main problem with « faith in lineage » is that it’s institutionalized argument by authority. It’s a giant bias.

It's more like "adopting the view that this will work," because doing that works. It's a pragmatic argument, in practice. Dogma certainly creeps in when you get away from practice into politics, but "bias" isn't a concern in awakening. It's all about what works.

However, it turns out not to be necessary or desirable for this approach. It might be necessary or useful for some practices, but not this one!

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http://files.howtolivewiki.com/.meditation_2015/transcripts/... This came out of an attempt to strip the core meditation techniques down to completely remove the mysticism, and adjust the practice cycle for long-term solo practitioners who are agnostic or atheist and can't lean on concepts like "The Buddha" or "Lord Shiva" (although I myself am Hindu.) The critical innovation is doing ten minute rounds of different p…

> Welcome to that there meditation class. I’m Vinay. This is intended as a private recording (and transcript) so please don’t stick it on YouTube. I will pass it around to people who should have a copy. I guess this technically wasn't stuck on YouTube...

The restriction was useful in 2015 because we were still testing the system. Now it's had 7 years to settle in and we've come to think it's pretty much safe as long as people don't ignore the therapy requirement.

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Cyclic hyperventilation with retention is the same as wim hof breathing https://youtu.be/tybOi4hjZFQ as I understood from Andrew Huberman

I'm not a practitioner of Wim Hof's methods, but what was implemented in the paper is definitely not Wim Hof breathing. The paper describes 30x breaths with the inhale twice as long as the exhale, and a 15 second hold on the final exhale. Wim Hof's method has 30x equal-length inhales and exhales, and a one-minute hold on the final exhale [0]. Aside from there being a substantial difference between equal length inhale…

The Wim Hof method is weirdly effective. I've never been able to hold my breath for over a minute even though I've tried. But on my second attempt at the Wim Hof method I did 2 minutes and then shortly after 4 minutes... It felt way shorter... I think the hyperventilation put me into a dissociative state.

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It's remarkable that I so often lapse in my meditation practice when it's such a short time commitment and so consistently improves my mood. I tell myself that morning yoga is enough or a walking meditation while taking the dog out is enough - I do those every day without fail. But they're not the same as seated breath work. Why do other mood improvement habits seem more approachable, like making a cup of tea or exer…

> sitting and breathing seems harder? The stillness, I think. With adhd, that's my challenge anyway. The mind does not shut off, and 5 minutes can feel like forever. Even thinking about it makes me squirm. But I took a yoga class once that did breathwork, and with guidance, I found the ability to focus my entire attention on my breath; the action and the feeling of it.

It's one of the preparation methods: if you have too many thoughts focus on your breath, if you're addicted to pleasures focus on disguisting things, and so on. What happens if you just ignore your thoughts, if you watch them like images in a boring movie? Thoughts compel you to follow them, but you dont have to.

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Re : lapse in meditation practice. Concentration meditation. I used to do it as much as possible. Every day. Sometimes 2, 3, 6 times. I was kinda nuts. But my practice was strong. Vipassana + concentration. My practice was extremely erratic. Vipassana. Just vipassana. That's what I do now. My practice is very consistent. Haven't missed a day in a decade. I think it's because vipassana is more compatible with the rest…

What do you mean by “doing Vipassana, all the time”? Body scanning? Focusing on equanimity? Observing change in the phenomena you’re perceiving?

Not the OP, but some schools of buddhism, e.g. gelungs, describe two types of meditation: static and dynamic (my own terminology). The static one is sitting still and sharpening your focus. The end goal is the state when your mind naturally snaps into this fully attentive state - samadhi. But that's a weak result, and dynamic meditation is ability to retain this state no matter what you're doing or even thinking. That's vipassana. There are decent books about the history of buddhism and dzogchen that explain this better.

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Re : lapse in meditation practice. Concentration meditation. I used to do it as much as possible. Every day. Sometimes 2, 3, 6 times. I was kinda nuts. But my practice was strong. Vipassana + concentration. My practice was extremely erratic. Vipassana. Just vipassana. That's what I do now. My practice is very consistent. Haven't missed a day in a decade. I think it's because vipassana is more compatible with the rest…

What do you mean by “doing Vipassana, all the time”? Body scanning? Focusing on equanimity? Observing change in the phenomena you’re perceiving?

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What do you mean by “doing Vipassana, all the time”? Body scanning? Focusing on equanimity? Observing change in the phenomena you’re perceiving?

Not the OP, but some schools of buddhism, e.g. gelungs, describe two types of meditation: static and dynamic (my own terminology). The static one is sitting still and sharpening your focus. The end goal is the state when your mind naturally snaps into this fully attentive state - samadhi. But that's a weak result, and dynamic meditation is ability to retain this state no matter what you're doing or even thinking. Tha…

> decent books

Such as?

Re: Brief structured respiration enhances mood and reduces physiological arousal

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What do you mean by “doing Vipassana, all the time”? Body scanning? Focusing on equanimity? Observing change in the phenomena you’re perceiving?

Not the OP, but some schools of buddhism, e.g. gelungs, describe two types of meditation: static and dynamic (my own terminology). The static one is sitting still and sharpening your focus. The end goal is the state when your mind naturally snaps into this fully attentive state - samadhi. But that's a weak result, and dynamic meditation is ability to retain this state no matter what you're doing or even thinking. Tha…

How about shrinking and growing? I think I saw that in Patanjali

Re: Brief structured respiration enhances mood and reduces physiological arousal

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Re : lapse in meditation practice. Concentration meditation. I used to do it as much as possible. Every day. Sometimes 2, 3, 6 times. I was kinda nuts. But my practice was strong. Vipassana + concentration. My practice was extremely erratic. Vipassana. Just vipassana. That's what I do now. My practice is very consistent. Haven't missed a day in a decade. I think it's because vipassana is more compatible with the rest…

What do you mean by “doing Vipassana, all the time”? Body scanning? Focusing on equanimity? Observing change in the phenomena you’re perceiving?

Well, in Vipassana we cultivate an awareness that is big, relaxed, spread-out, nonreactive.

I do that awareness shape all the time.

Re: Brief structured respiration enhances mood and reduces physiological arousal

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What do you mean by “doing Vipassana, all the time”? Body scanning? Focusing on equanimity? Observing change in the phenomena you’re perceiving?

Not the OP, but some schools of buddhism, e.g. gelungs, describe two types of meditation: static and dynamic (my own terminology). The static one is sitting still and sharpening your focus. The end goal is the state when your mind naturally snaps into this fully attentive state - samadhi. But that's a weak result, and dynamic meditation is ability to retain this state no matter what you're doing or even thinking. Tha…

Another one is "meditation with a seed" and "meditation without a seed".

From Raja Yoga. Translated. Samprajnata Dhyana and Asamprajnata Dhyana, respectively.

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