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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by cevn »

smoldesu wrote: post #88
sylens wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1080p too. Really hard for me to go back at this point.

There's hope that a 4k screen option might exist, but anything between 1080p and 4k will not look good on Linux at this size. Without fractional scaling or funny supersampling tricks, Linux only really looks good at 100% and 200% scaling. Maybe in time that will change, but that's just how Linux is for now.

Fractional scaling is a 99% solved problem at least on KDE, even with Wayland it seems to work fine for me. Just a few apps are blurry which I don't use.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #8

Would it make sense to change the title? I read it to be about people who bought AMD-only laptops from System76, needing to return them to System76 for some reason.

Ditto. I assumed it would be an article about some catastrophic hardware fault with an AMD-only laptop, necessitating a recall.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by jklinger410 »

They should have gone with AMD from the start and the screen is a non-starter. When researching laptops, screen is probably the biggest differentiator at this point.

I won't be replacing my Galago Pro with another System76 product when that day finally comes.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by [deleted] »

cevn wrote: post #101
smoldesu wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's hope that a 4k screen option might exist, but anything between 1080p and 4k will not look good on Linux at this size. Without fractional scaling or funny supersampling tricks, Linux only really looks good at 100% and 200% scaling. Maybe in time that will change, but that's just how Linux is for now.

Fractional scaling is a 99% solved problem at least on KDE, even with Wayland it seems to work fine for me. Just a few apps are blurry which I don't use.

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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by jklinger410 »

myself248 wrote: post #56
jesuscript wrote: post #7

What makes their stuff so great? I was customizing a gaming rig on their site the other day and it was wildly overpriced. I imagine you can match their specs for this laptop at cheaper prices.

They spend a lot of that money supporting upstream contributions, maintaining a first-class Linux experience, providing real support, and otherwise putting their money where their mouth is. Compare to almost literally any other laptop, where uttering the word "linux" gets you nothing more than a voided warranty and a strong YOYOMF, and some fraction of customers will see value in System76's approach. Pixel for pixel,…

> maintaining a first-class Linux experience

NVIDIA + Coreboot is not a linux-first experience by any stretch of the imagination. Unless you want to be stuck on POP OS for forever.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

#107

Post by ploxiln »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #89

Not gonna lie, very underwhelming compared to what's coming out from other manufacturers... Even a budget brand like Acer is releasing Ryzen 7000 chipsets and pairing it with higher resolution OLED screens, probably will be cheaper as well... https://www.acer.com/ca-en/laptops/swift/swift-go-14-amd

The Ryzen 7000 mobile lineup includes chips based on Zen4, Zen 3+, Zen 3, and even Zen 2 cpu cores, and using RDNA3, RDNA2, and even Vega graphics! An Acer with a Ryzen 7000 series chip could easily have the same or older cpu core or graphics arch, as the Zen 3+ and RDNA2 in Ryzen 6800U.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/18718/amd-2023-ryzen-mobile-7...

(and honestly, Zen 3 and RDNA 2 are damn good anyway)

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

#108

Post by Y_Y »

coder543 wrote: post #26
lwhi wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but it would continue to allow the poster their own choice of words .. which I think is important.

No... it's less clear too. The verb is never isolated from the rest of the sentence by a comma, but a list of nouns will be isolated by commas, even if the conjunction is missing for brevity in a title. Separating "returns" like that makes it appear even more to be a noun, which is the thing that the original comment was confused by. Correct interpretation of the title relies on the reader realizing that it is a verb…

Person holds excessively strict ideas about English grammar, posts.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by coder543 »

Y_Y wrote: post #108
coder543 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No... it's less clear too. The verb is never isolated from the rest of the sentence by a comma, but a list of nouns will be isolated by commas, even if the conjunction is missing for brevity in a title. Separating "returns" like that makes it appear even more to be a noun, which is the thing that the original comment was confused by. Correct interpretation of the title relies on the reader realizing that it is a verb…

Person holds excessively strict ideas about English grammar, posts.

I think clear communication is important, and I initially tried to avoid digging into grammar until they doubled down on a weird use of a comma.

There are two verbs in your example, so it’s simply not a relevant example since the second verb is forming a separate sentence. It’s just connected with a comma in order to inform the reader that it is reusing the context of the previous sentence. In this specific example, that really makes it a broken sentence fragment, but it is often acceptable if it is being done poetically, which it arguably is there.

I phrased my previous comment carefully. The verb is never isolated from the rest of the sentence by a comma. “Posts” is the complete sentence; it just has an implicit subject and object.

It’s possible there are nuanced counterexamples somewhere that I’m somehow overlooking, but none of them are relevant to whether putting a comma between “laptop” and “returns” would make the title clearer.

But, if you’d like to try again with only a single verb…

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by Mikeb85 »

ploxiln wrote: post #107
Mikeb85 wrote: post #89

Not gonna lie, very underwhelming compared to what's coming out from other manufacturers... Even a budget brand like Acer is releasing Ryzen 7000 chipsets and pairing it with higher resolution OLED screens, probably will be cheaper as well... https://www.acer.com/ca-en/laptops/swift/swift-go-14-amd

The Ryzen 7000 mobile lineup includes chips based on Zen4, Zen 3+, Zen 3, and even Zen 2 cpu cores, and using RDNA3, RDNA2, and even Vega graphics! An Acer with a Ryzen 7000 series chip could easily have the same or older cpu core or graphics arch, as the Zen 3+ and RDNA2 in Ryzen 6800U. https://www.anandtech.com/show/18718/amd-2023-ryzen-mobile-7... (and honestly, Zen 3 and RDNA 2 are damn good anyway)

The teaser says 8 cores/16 threads so likely will be at least equivalent. With a much better screen. And cheaper.
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