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Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

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Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

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90k to 900k is the difference between living as lower class to upper middle class at Silicon Valley.

Upper middle class? Is multi-millionaire not "rich" anymore?

High cost of living city. A million doesn’t go as far as it used to (inflation). Think about how much real estate has increased in the last 10 years. That’s the biggest expense for anyone.

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

#103
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea here is to use this information to "help" and "include" people, not to discriminate against them.

That is discrimination though. Any use of that info at all for hiring decisions is discrimination.

"discriminate* has two meanings:

* recognize a distinction; differentiate. (Discriminate between)

* make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people. (Discriminate against)

I meant they current trend is to do the former in order to offset historical use of the latter.

Whether that's fair or whether that will work long term is another question!

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

#104

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There is likely no engineer at that level, instead they're gaming the law. They're required to report their salary range for transparency, and they're basically replying with "our salaries are between between 0 and $1M".

I know a couple of Netflix employees making over 700k cash. I also have a friend who was a recruiter at Netflix that handled an offer to an engineer for $1M cash. These are real numbers.

Cash? That seems inconvenient.

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

#105

Colorado has a similar law, but I've never observed this kind of "range-hacking." Why would this happen in CA but not CO?

Probably because of selection bias: most of the huge tech companies are headquartered in CA, not CO, and of those, the ones that are just batshit insane when it comes to hiring are also found more in CA than in CO. And then because Netflix considered themselves a "dream team" snowflake, they even have a "we may decide to fire you if you're not the absolute best each week every week". But because of how they implement…

I wonder if it works the other way; can the employees apply a "keeper test" for managers? I have had several managers in the past that were not good and I would definitely vote out. What's good for the goose...

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

#106

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It’s not flaunting a law. It’s a typical built in Sacramento law written by dilettantes who can’t think through the simplest of problems. Just like the “can’t charge extra for using a credit card” law. Prices went up and gas stations give a cash discount.

Yes it is. Perhaps Netflix is not _breaking_ a law, which itself may have been written by "dilettantes", but this action certainly disabuses us of the notion that Netflix has any intention to adhere to the spirit of the law, which was to reduce racial and gender-based salary gaps.

The "spirit of the law" is to bend reality. Laws are always well intended but are often, to put it bluntly, stupid. If it were really that easy, we'd be living in paradise now. Just write another law!

The only thing wrong with the current situation is, unfortunately, anyone naive enough to believe that this law was supposed to have the intended effect. Otherwise, it's functioning exactly as any sensible person would have predicted.

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

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Written by the same people that gave us the “everything causes cancer” warnings?

> Written by the same people that gave us the “everything causes cancer” warnings? No, Prop 65 was written by a lawyer for the Environmental Defense Fund and proposed and passed as an initiative measure, SB 1162 was written by Senator Monique Limon and adoptef by the State Legislature. Different people, different process.

I presume they meant people who share similar values and beliefs, not literally the same individuals. Specifically, the kind of liberal values associated with California, since the state is often mocked for said "cancer" warnings outside of the state (or other states with similar values).

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is discrimination though. Any use of that info at all for hiring decisions is discrimination.

"discriminate* has two meanings: * recognize a distinction; differentiate. (Discriminate between ) * make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people. (Discriminate against ) I meant they current trend is to do the former in order to offset historical use of the latter. Whether that's fair or whether that will work long term is another question!

You forgot "discriminate in favor of" in your second point and incorrectly attributed the current trend to the first point, although perhaps you're seeing a different trend than me.

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

#109
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not flaunting a law. It’s a typical built in Sacramento law written by dilettantes who can’t think through the simplest of problems. Just like the “can’t charge extra for using a credit card” law. Prices went up and gas stations give a cash discount.

"Can't charge extra for using a credit card" is a contractual condition imposed by the credit card companies. If anything there should be a law voiding such conditions as contrary to sound public policy. Why should cash or debit card users in a competitive market be charged extra to subsidize rewards for credit card users, for example?

Because they don't. Handling cash is expensive, and typically costs more than credit card fees.

Re: Netflix has job with almost $1M listed salary range, to comply with new CA law

#110
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upper middle class? Is multi-millionaire not "rich" anymore?

High cost of living city. A million doesn’t go as far as it used to (inflation). Think about how much real estate has increased in the last 10 years. That’s the biggest expense for anyone.

Silicon Valley is expensive, but not so expensive that $900k/year is only middle class. That's $40k/month or so after taxes.
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