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Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#101
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technical workarounds and social activism aren't mutually exclusive; given how long the latter can take to achieve results, it's often useful to have the former in the meantime.

By bypassing the block you lessen the need for social activism

This is called "accelerationism". It does not work. It is a maladaptive thought-pattern, nursed by people on the political fringe.

The theory is that as things get worse and worse, there will come a moment when everyone suddenly "wakes up", and acts in unity to overthrow their oppressors and build a better system (under the command of the enlightened few, of course). This happens approximately never (see: Qanon), and when it does, the chances of a good result are even more remote (see: Bolshevism).

It serves a useful emotional purpose for the adherents: you don't have to do anything, make friends with anyone, understand the world around you. Just wait for the apocalypse, for the day when the Elect will seize power and shoot their enemies etc etc.

Back in the real world, here is how you build a large effective political coalition: by solving people's problems in the here and now. This is how the Fabians built the welfare state.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#104

Anyone can approach any state high court and get an order to block any website in India. The ISPs will block immediately and then the victims have to work the court system to get unblocked. Videolan (VLC) was blocked for months. I don't know if the block was ever actually lifted as we use dnscryptd on our networks.

The VLC block was lifted[0,1] after VLC filed a legal notice[2] with IFF's help. It was blocked for somewhere around 3-4 months at the very least.

[0]: https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/14/india-lifts-download-ban-o...

[1]: https://twitter.com/internetfreedom/status/15920956340139499...

[2]: https://internetfreedom.in/videolan-issued-legal-notice-to-d...

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#105
post #18

A great time to consider self-hosting your Git repositories then? Like all the inflated hype in the news with the federation 'goobledegook' and 'technobabble' with Mastodon and alternatives with techies spinning up instances, perhaps it is about time that techies use Git properly and consider self-hosting your repositories just like how many techies do with self-hosting Mastodon instances? I don't think there is an e…

I already self-host my code (git.captnemo.in), but that doesn't lessen the impact of me browsing a repo on GH, and failing to use GitHub's functionality (viewing previews).

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#106
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except moving your repo is a matter of changing the origin, pushing and notifying your co workers. It's not like moving social network identity, and it saves some admin burden. If you use just the repo feature, that is. If you fall into the trap of using GitHub's other services you have vendor lock in and you're more screwed than when considering moving from Twitter to Mastodon.

Your instructions would only apply to a dead repo. Migrating an active repo is going to require coordination, dry runs, validation, and planning coupled with updates across your integrations. If you rewrite any history, all bets are off. You're also not taking into account any cleanup activities like reflog expire, or gc prune. I would also argue that moving to a self hosted remote is going to have significant admini…

> updates across your integrations

That's already vendor lock in - you're using GitHub's CI pipeline? You're locked.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#107

The best thing to do is to create a national git service and make copies of the important git repos, to avoid this problem.

It exists: https://openforge.gov.in/ (Its a https://www.tuleap.org/ instance, hosted by MEITY (National E-Governance Division).

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#108
post #12

> Unfortunately, there is no easy way to find out if there is even a court order behind this block not easy, but have you tried filing a RTI application regarding this? https://rtionline.gov.in/

The government has never published a blocking order. RTI has failed, and there's no due process if your website has been blocked.

Here's the government defending their stance of keeping these secret: https://internetfreedom.in/meity-defends-blocking-of-satiric...

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#110
post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub is free for individuals and OSS projects... Most people don't want to manage their own vanilla Git server. GitHub, GitLab, and Bitbucket provide collaboration features you'll never see in Git.

SourceHut, Notabug, Codeberg, etc. are free in both money and liberty, unlike GitHub.

How are you being oppressed by a SaaS offering that charges you nothing and uses a standard protocol (git)?
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