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Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by acdha »

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #21

If you don't see anything wrong with the government forcing censorship on controversial political questions, such as whether elections are safe and fair, just imagine your own reaction if after the 2016 election, Trump's FBI would be monitoring Twitter for any information about Cambridge Analytica / Russia's interference, labeling them as misinformation and censoring and banning everyone mentioning them. If your valu…

> If you don't see anything wrong with the government forcing censorship on controversial political questions

Nobody is saying that it wouldn’t be a problem. The debate is whether the Twitter Files shows anything of the sort, and begging the question like that calls into question whether you’re actually interested in a honest discussion.

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by 082349872349872 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #83

> The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter Being the primary domestic component of the intelligence community is overtly part of the FBI role, so that would be expected to be true with any domestic actor in the place of “Twitter”. Similarly, “major international public and private communication platform with a history of being used to recruit and organize insurrections and other act…

indeed; cf https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by Fellshard »

phphphphp wrote: post #58
monsecchris wrote: post #13

The people trying to minimise every intelligence agency working with every tech company on behalf of the Democratic Party are the same people calling this a dangerous far right conspiracy theory not long ago.

If any party was responsible for this FBI behaviour, surely it would be the party that was in power at the time? The Republican party were in control in 2020.

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Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by turtleyacht »

akira2501 wrote: post #49
stefan_ wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahh yes, all those tweets the FBI reported that Matt forgot to tell you were straight up revenge porn. I really wonder why they were deleted! If only he could have found out using, like, the Web Archive, as many others did afterwards. (It was the Trump government FBI, by the way. In case your timeline is a bit mixed up?)

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Even if flagged, isn't that just a -1? I've seen grey posts return to dark after an upvote before.

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

acdha wrote: post #76
mensetmanusman wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banning DMs talking about true events seems like something reasonable to be outraged about.

It happened for a few hours when the story was flagged as hacked materials (just like they’d do for, say, someone’s non-consensual nudes). Twitter did that on their own and removed it shortly later after their internal discussion agreed that it wasn’t a violation (they took down the tweets reposting actual nudes, not the media coverage).

Sorry, wasn’t NY Post suspended on Twitter for almost two weeks?

The impact wasn’t just for a few hours and the final acknowledgement of validity of those files came long after the election.

This is textbook gaslighting.0

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by merpnderp »

mef wrote: post #9

I’ve been trying to read these Twitter files threads thoughtfully, and maybe it’s just a sign of the current average level of comfort with government involvement with social media platforms, but I’m generally not seeing much issue with the stuff being revealed. the worst thing about this particular thread seems like the govt agencies talking to Twitter about foreign influence are overreaching a bit (eg asking them to…

The FBI/CIA was censoring rando Americans for stupid jokes and everything in between that and real journalists covering real stories that the FBI didn’t want ran. It was bad.

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by acdha »

kyrra wrote: post #59
themagician wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BREAKING: tech companies usually cooperate with law enforcement and government when requested. Data shows they are more than 100 times more likely to continue to respond to requests when paid.

Companies should cooperate when compelled so by law, not just cause. This gets into the space where many here knock Chinese companies as they are regularly directed partially by the CCP. The real question is, when does laws that apply only to the government, like the first amendment, start applying to private companies when the private companies are being directed by the government?

Cooperation here means that they were enforcing their existing terms of service. That’s very different from legal compulsion.

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by bell-cot »

Maybe I'm dating myself...but how different is this, really, from stuff that was routine back in the days of J Edgar Hoover (FBI Director, 1935-1972)? Other than "with computers and the internet" instead of "with paper files and typewriters"?

Idealistic youthful utopianism, techno- or otherwise, does not change human nature. And ignorance of history is a really poor recipe for long-term success.

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by poszlem »

petesergeant wrote: post #98
poszlem wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they don't. https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/16051281807503196...

Ah, so the "mainstream media" "radio silence" here for an American politics story is in-fact complaining that on a specific date, it wasn't front-page news in ... the UK?

Can you show me when it made front page in the US media?

Re: The FBI was the primary link between the intelligence community and Twitter

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Post by creato »

akira2501 wrote: post #49
stefan_ wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahh yes, all those tweets the FBI reported that Matt forgot to tell you were straight up revenge porn. I really wonder why they were deleted! If only he could have found out using, like, the Web Archive, as many others did afterwards. (It was the Trump government FBI, by the way. In case your timeline is a bit mixed up?)

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> You people are very quick to muddy the waters here.

Funny, I’d say it was people that can’t seem to cite any evidence without dick pics that are “muddying the waters”.

I’ve read these twitter files posts from Taibbi and Weiss. It’s all insinuations based on contact between government agencies and twitter. The actual content being discussed is not interesting.

The biggest red flag this is all raising for me is why FBI agents are sitting around searching for small time election misinformation like talking about voting a day late. Is there nothing higher priority to work on? And how has twitter not automated finding such basic misinformation?

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