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Re: Apollo Layoffs

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I have pretty limited experience with graphql. Why is apollos offering interesting to people? A hosted graphql proxy? You still need to write your own servers(but theres a ton of good libraries in multiple languages for this?)

Architecturally it seems to be adding a massive hop to requests made, but its not clear to me what the benefit is?

Re: Apollo Layoffs

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The "$300 mental health" seems odd - for any kind of counseling/therapy/etc sessions this is a drop in the bucket in terms of cost. It will easily cost 10x to work with a mental health professional (and insurance companies sadly pay a very small amount of it). So why add this to an otherwise reasonable package?

$300 is incredibly reasonable since it's more than $0.

They are paying the COBRA. So this goes toward copays and hitting deductible. Assuming their health coverage is good (why wouldn't it be, it's a San Fran tech company?), this gets you pretty far.

Re: Apollo Layoffs

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Is there a reason why these big layoffs are done just before thanksgiving, Christmas etc?

Well, from the week of thanksgiving to NYE productivity is shit anyway. People are planning vacations, gift buying, visiting relatives/friends.

Doing layoff before that is beneficial for employer to save on labor cost (not paying low productivity time), and employee (allows better planning)

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No it's not. Severance is extremely common, while this package is quite generous.

Severance is definitely not common in startups. They'll usually burn the cash right up until the very last investor says 'no more' and then call it quits. They might have one more pay period (or two) in the bank.

It’s definitely common in parts of the world where workers have organized to have severance required by law or through other organized means. When workers demand it one on one with their employers, they have no leverage and are at the mercy of “nice owners” (ones that value reputations effects created by worker-favorable market conditions)

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Severance is definitely not common in startups. They'll usually burn the cash right up until the very last investor says 'no more' and then call it quits. They might have one more pay period (or two) in the bank.

I got hired by a place, and my first paycheck bounced. The owners are now billionaires. (They sold the company to a Fortune 100 about 18 months later.)

Employers are by dollar amount the biggest actual thieves by far in the US. Business owners ought to generally receive more scorn and critical evaluation than common property thieves who represent a thin fragment, if we really care about theft

Re: Apollo Layoffs

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post #101

I have pretty limited experience with graphql. Why is apollos offering interesting to people? A hosted graphql proxy? You still need to write your own servers(but theres a ton of good libraries in multiple languages for this?) Architecturally it seems to be adding a massive hop to requests made, but its not clear to me what the benefit is?

I don't know about the company or how they make money with it (support?), but Apollo is pretty much the standard GraphQL client for frontends. It has pretty sophisticated cache and state management, type generation for typescript, etc.

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Crazy. Usually it's just "Pay stops today, benefits at the end of the month. Hand in your badge - off you go."

No it's not. Severance is extremely common, while this package is quite generous.

Not only is not common but it's definitely not "extremely common." In the current wave of layoffs signaling the end of the "cheap money era" it does seem more common however. At least among the types of companies that are likely to make it onto the HN front page. I've worked for plenty of startups where we got nothing more than being paid up through the day we were laid off. And most of those withheld our last check until we returned all company property.

Re: Apollo Layoffs

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Why are software companies still grappling with the mythical man month? You'd think by now we'd have learned our lesson. More hands /= more productivity, at least on a linear scale

Large software orgs get around this by having multiple projects that are either loosely coupled or completely separate. Otherwise there’s be no point in hiring more than 10 engineers at any point.

I’ve actually spent a long time working at engineering orgs that run super lean. On the upside there are never layoffs, on the downside you’re really constrained on what problems you can tackle - and that can have some major (negative) business implications.

Anyway I can’t help but feel we are slowly reverting back to the aughts where people thought you could clone Google or whatever with like 5 engineers and didn’t understand why nobody took them seriously.

Re: Apollo Layoffs

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post #101

I have pretty limited experience with graphql. Why is apollos offering interesting to people? A hosted graphql proxy? You still need to write your own servers(but theres a ton of good libraries in multiple languages for this?) Architecturally it seems to be adding a massive hop to requests made, but its not clear to me what the benefit is?

Managed schema evolution mostly. Essentially git branches for your schema, that you can't merge if it would break your clients.

Re: Apollo Layoffs

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I had a layoff like that, they gave me the option of choosing. Lump sum or "stay on the payroll but have no access." I went with the latter because it paid better. For a while I was always stressed out about background checks, because it showed that I was working two jobs. (I got a job to replace it almost immediately, but continued to get paid by the old place.)

Sorry but where exactly would a background check show you have two jobs?

> where exactly would a background check show you have two jobs

"The Work Number" is a very popular service for this. They are owned by Equifax.

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