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Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#101
post #47

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Or the feds knew he was secretly planning to flee or something else. Hard to tell. Though I do wish he had testified and further incremented himself.

> Though I do wish he had testified and further incremented himself. SBF += 1;

... SBE SBF SC0 SC1 ...

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#102
post #8

Inevitable, but a lot of talking heads used the delay after FTX's collapse to sow doubt about corruption, media failure, etc. Feds were probably gathering evidence from Day 1, and the restructuring CEO seems to have found it: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/BA/BA00/20221213/115246/HHRG...

FWIW, most of the presige media (NYTimes, WaPo, WSJ) have been running puff pieces which parrot SBF's claims of ignorance without much if any fact checking or investigation.

I'm not sure reporting that Alameda + FTX had little to no financial controls, terrible accounting, and unaccounted for deposits is really puffery, unless you stretch the definition. And I've seen stories about SBF spending FTX money on personal loans and Bahamas real estate all over the legacy media. Even the restructuring CEO couldn't account for all the lost funds until recently

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#104
post #4

Much sooner than I expected. Figured it'd be a couple of years before the AG was secure enough in their case to bring charges. This is MUCH faster than Madoff or Holmes. Then again, he's been much more out in the open about everything. He pretty much laid the prosecution's case out to the public for them.

It's clear Caroline Ellison has turned against him. Stephanie Avakian, former SEC enforcement chief, is representing her in NY. I'm guessing they wouldn't have been able to file charges this quickly without Caroline becoming a cooperating witness.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#105

Why did he stay in the bahamas? Was he allowed to travel?

I can't imagine why he wouldn't flee. If i was committing ~9 figures worth of fraud, I would have huge stashes of 1oz gold bars buried in countries without extradition like Vietnam and venezuela. He seems like he had no exit plan thought up. Madoff got 150 years in prison, and i dont see any reason why SBF would get any less.

According the US Dept of State[0], Venezuela has an extradition treaty with the US, apparently since 1923.

All North and South American countries do. All Caribbean countries too. Even Cuba.

Parts of Africa and Asia look pretty safe. Madagascar is nice this time of year.

0. https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/organization/71600.pdf

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#106
post #75

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Is it a good reason to stay in a country that has an extradition treaty with the US?

The only places safe from US are China, Russia, North Korea, Iran. FTX had a lot of customers in Hong Kong. So where do you go?

Also, what does he offer any of those places. I guess he might be able to help NK with their crypto scams, but I'd prefer a US prison to even the better off in NK. Places don't just accept people running from the USG for shits and giggles, Russia accepted snowden to rub it in the US's face, not out of any belief he was a wronged hero.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#107

Why did he stay in the bahamas? Was he allowed to travel?

I can't imagine why he wouldn't flee. If i was committing ~9 figures worth of fraud, I would have huge stashes of 1oz gold bars buried in countries without extradition like Vietnam and venezuela. He seems like he had no exit plan thought up. Madoff got 150 years in prison, and i dont see any reason why SBF would get any less.

He didn’t expect himself to fail or see himself as nefarious enough to have an extradition free life planned if things failed.

People aren’t cartoon villains, and the speculation about “what I’d do if I were Al Capone” or whatever are just silly fantasy.

This is bank fraud, not a heist, also much different than Madoff.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#108
post #22

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SBF literally stole billions from a bank account. Not a very subtle crime.

He commingled bank accounts for two separate companies. It didn’t all go to him buying Lamborghinis

He took $1bn in a personal loan and execs in total took $4bn in loans.

[1] - https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/11/17/sam-bankma...

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#110
post #57

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Surely he had enough money to order a private jet or yacht or both.

You still pass through passport control. There was talk that he was followed around everywhere in Bahamas by the police. Like I said, there are ways to keep someone on an island without arresting them. Especially in this case, what was he going to do, sue?

>You still pass through passport control.

On a boat? Usually not. Most people island hopping in the Caribbean definitely aren't going through any kind of passport controls.

Unless the cops were following him everywhere he went, Bahamas would be one of the easier places to escape.

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