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World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by rimeice »

cm2187 wrote: post #71
vermilingua wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because in most western countries, insurance and workers compensation laws result in safer working conditions.

Not really a story I have followed but the numbers I see after a quick search suggest this is another bullshit story. This website (first result on google, I don't particularly vouch for it [1]) suggests in 2020, 340 workers died every day from hazardous working conditions in the US. If you scale it to the population of Qatar, that's about 3 per day, or 20 per week. The guardian claims 12 migrant workers died per wee…

Slightly misleading Guardian source. Their number includes all migrants, not just those migrants who’ve worked in construction and not those who just worked on construction projects to do with the World Cup, their figures are for literally all migrants.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/more-or-less-behind-th...

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by jacurtis »

newaccount74 wrote: post #55
tpmx wrote: post #6

https://grantwahl.substack.com/p/world-cup-daily-day-22 My body finally broke down on me. Three weeks of little sleep, high stress and lots of work can do that to you. What had been a cold over the last 10 days turned into something more severe on the night of the USA-Netherlands game, and I could feel my upper chest take on a new level of pressure and discomfort. I didn’t have Covid (I test regularly here), but I we…

Sounds like a heart attack.

I agree. Conspiracy theories are fun. But the fact he experienced chest pain for days leading up to his death, does seem to imply it was a true medical issue.

It’s very possible his heart was moving in and out of AFIB for a few days and then finally gave out in the form of a heart attack.

He fought through it because it’s obviously the biggest few weeks of the year for his job (as a soccer journalist).

The fact that the pain was significant to write about it publicly in his newsletter implies that it was obviously getting pretty bad. Not just a passing chest pain. It was probably very bad.

It does question why better medical attention wasn’t given to him. If he had this pain for days leading up to a sudden attack, then it’s very sad because it was likely preventable.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by lupire »

sofixa wrote: post #95
omnibrain wrote: post #84

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You know, the FIFA is an association. It has members. The members either set the rules, or they are complicit. Now you say, oh, the members won't do anything. They are willing complicits. Guess what. They are also associtations and have members. In the end your local football club is a member of a local association, that is member of a national association, that is member of FIFA. Why not start there. Start an initia…

But it's the members that are where the corruption comes from - they're the ones that elect the executive committee and the president, vote on proposals such as World Cup locations, etc. etc. FIFA is just a reflection of the corrupt state of world football federations.

Teams can quit FIFA, like academics quit Elsevier.

Fans can quit paying teams.

But teams don't care and fans don't care.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by ethanbond »

jacooper wrote: post #100
ethanbond wrote: post #89

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So people can only criticize one another from a position of complete purity and innocence? Where exactly do you think that’ll get us?

No I want equal coverage, no hypocrites.

You’re aware those topics you listed are among the most controversial in modern American life, right?

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by lupire »

Yaa101 wrote: post #85
jackmott42 wrote: post #69

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Quite a lot of really simple solutions actually. But modern reasonable people who are offended by evil are too nice to get rid of it like they should.

Not too nice but too cowardice, they don't want to deal with the moral psychological fallout of killing evil people, they rather sit in a corner and weep about how evil the world is.

That's "nice".

----

You're so nice

You're not good

You're not bad

You're just nice

I'm not good

I'm not nice

I'm just right

I'm the witch

You're the world

--Into the Woods, Last Midnight

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by cm2187 »

rimeice wrote: post #101
cm2187 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really a story I have followed but the numbers I see after a quick search suggest this is another bullshit story. This website (first result on google, I don't particularly vouch for it [1]) suggests in 2020, 340 workers died every day from hazardous working conditions in the US. If you scale it to the population of Qatar, that's about 3 per day, or 20 per week. The guardian claims 12 migrant workers died per wee…

Slightly misleading Guardian source. Their number includes all migrants, not just those migrants who’ve worked in construction and not those who just worked on construction projects to do with the World Cup, their figures are for literally all migrants. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/more-or-less-behind-th...

Plus there are probably not many locals in Qatar touching hazardous jobs. And this is probably a large infrastructure project compared to the scale of the country (if you do more work you get more accidents).

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by throwawaylinux »

Swenrekcah wrote: post #78
throwawaylinux wrote: post #46

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What seems pretty obvious is all the globalist institutions, everything from FIFA to the UN Human Rights Council, which are happy to take bribes from unashamedly totalitarian petrostates and worse, don't care. That's what gets me. Qatar can Qatar in Qatar, but the disgusting, corrupt, hypocritical ruling class who would preach to me and claim to be the "experts" on how I should live my life and to be my moral superio…

So, putting FIFA aside since it’s not a public institution, you’re saying that because some institutions have a problem with some of their workings, that they should be abolished? We need to strengthen our democratic institutions and of course also be more demanding of honesty from their leaders. Just saying they’re evil and we need to put an end to them sounds like people saying the police is evil and should be abol…

I'm saying that all institutions which support and enable and legitimize brutal theocratic dictatorships like this should be purged of the parasites which infest them, yes.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by phphphphp »

kingofpandora wrote: post #93

The accusation is that the Qatari government killed Grant Wahl because of his reporting. But then again, Wahl's last post is all about how the Qatari government doesn't care about the worker's death and doesn't care if you know it ... so why would they kill an American journalist - with all the negatives that would bring down on them - over something they don't care about?

Exactly, and no offence to Grant Wahl, but he's a nobody in the grand scheme of things. He might be a big journalist in the context of American soccer, but he's not a meaningful presence in the world of football -- a sport America doesn't really care about. There's lots of journalists who are being vocal about their dissatisfaction with Qatar to varying degrees, he's far from unique. Given he complained about illness, and acknowledged he was over working himself, it seems the default position should be a death of natural causes until there's some evidence otherwise. I guess someone could argue that the Qatari authorities knew he was unwell and thought that was good cover for killing him... but why bother? What's the motivation?
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