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Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#101

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Everytime topics like this are mentionned, with the totalitarian regimes in North Korea, Iran or elsewhere, it's funny to see how free access to resources, VPNs, open internet, etc... is treated differently. Good when it comes to dictatorships, but evil when in the west.

When free access to resources, VPNs, open internet, etc. are considered evil in the west?

by politicians who want to make it seem everyone using a VPN is doing evil stuff

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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post #53

>source: Radio Free Asia, Liberty Times Every time. And as usual, only unnamed sources. Other great hits include: - Every citizen must use the same haircut as Kim Jong-un - NK government announced that they found a "unicorn" - NK official was executed for bad posture - Kim Jong-un's uncle was eaten alive by starving dogs - Kim Jong-un labels DOG MEAT a 'superfood' - North Korea tells parents to give kids patriotic na…

You left out my favorite: "Kim Jong In executes girlfriend for starring in porno". Followed by all the most trusted mainstream media outlets repeating the rumor uncritically. Followed by a rash of "O M G she's still alive????" when, shockingly , appears in the public eye, unmurdered: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kim-jongun-s-e... No shit she's still alive, geniuses. You all trusted a single source kn…

That appears to be a different source, so of course it should be left off a list of things that RFA has reported. (If indeed RFA reported those things.)

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#103

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Maybe it’s fine for you to be ok with lying but it’s generally frowned upon.

Sorry, who is lying? Being supportive of any dictator (including Xi) is anti-human.

The problem with extremist takes like yours, is they remove any nuance, to the point of covering for other equally "anti-human" acts that eventually pop up.

Take the falun gong cult, or Scientology of the east for instance.

They were protected and given special status in New York and now spend a large amount of their time spreading nonsense propaganda about not just China but supporting extremists right wing parties globally.

No one in the US even bothered to cover them until they were banned for trying to spend 20millon on pro-trump ads in 2020.

And guess what they own most of the leading YouTube channels about China and are the gateway to anyone curious about how China functions.

I'll know, since I was watching one of their channels since 2010 and only found how how much fake made up stuff they made up only much later.

Same thing happened with how ISIS was formed due to the sheer ignorance of the decision makers.

ignorance breeds stupidity.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#104
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Why is this NK apologist post getting upvoted? Anyone who thinks dictatorships like this are fine should move there and become citizens.

Pointing out obvious propaganda is being an "apologist" and supports dictatorships?

No; the apology is in the last paragraph where the poster attempts to suggest that the DPRK is not really any worse than many other countries in the rest of the world.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#105

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When free access to resources, VPNs, open internet, etc. are considered evil in the west?

by politicians who want to make it seem everyone using a VPN is doing evil stuff

I haven’t heard this one, but I’m in the US. Maybe they are elsewhere. Can you name some of these politicians?

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#106
post #70

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Why is this NK apologist post getting upvoted? Anyone who thinks dictatorships like this are fine should move there and become citizens.

Pointing out obvious propaganda is being an "apologist" and supports dictatorships?

> It's not like North Korea is paradise. It's certainly not. It's another poor third world nation, not unlike many of the ones currently on the western side of things where the same sort of life happens.

There's pointing out propaganda (which I agree Radio Free Asia is), and there's boiling down a country well-documented as a known human rights violator[1] to "just another poor third world nation"

[1] https://reliefweb.int/attachments/838602f4-8043-3da8-85bd-12...

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#107

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Sorry, who is lying? Being supportive of any dictator (including Xi) is anti-human.

The problem with extremist takes like yours, is they remove any nuance, to the point of covering for other equally "anti-human" acts that eventually pop up. Take the falun gong cult, or Scientology of the east for instance. They were protected and given special status in New York and now spend a large amount of their time spreading nonsense propaganda about not just China but supporting extremists right wing parties…

If you like dictatorial regimes, please state it plainly.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#108
post #6

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> the limitations on speech imposed by many western governments Ok enough I quit hacker news

Then go. The quality of your comment is extremely poor and is the exact kind of talk that will eventually turn this place into reddit, echo chamber devoid of actual discussion and difficult ideas. Here, the goal is to say something meaningful and extend the conversation, not stop discussion with vague appeal to emotions about frustrations with the "wrong opinion". I'd've actually been on your side in a discussion if…

To be fair, while I wouldn’t generally be in favor of a comment like the one you're replying to, I did feel empathy for it in this case. It's not about avoiding a difficult topic; it's exhaustion with this extremely tiresome tendency to try to bring bad-faith arguments about social media moderation into literally every topic. It reminds me of the scene in The Big Lebowski:

https://youtu.be/pn-kxUEySy0

"Excuse me, sir. Please keep your voices down. This is a family restaurant."

"Oh please, dear. For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint!"

Is social media moderation worth discussing? Sure! Is, "Teens may or may not have been executed for distributing movies, but on the other hand they deleted my tweet" a conversation worth having? Debatable.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#109

>source: Radio Free Asia, Liberty Times Every time. And as usual, only unnamed sources. Other great hits include: - Every citizen must use the same haircut as Kim Jong-un - NK government announced that they found a "unicorn" - NK official was executed for bad posture - Kim Jong-un's uncle was eaten alive by starving dogs - Kim Jong-un labels DOG MEAT a 'superfood' - North Korea tells parents to give kids patriotic na…

Do you want named source in North Korea? The very fact that nobody can step forward to confirm or deny, or someone can go there to verify this information, show how evil NK is.

As for the list you cited as bad reports, maybe include links? But again, unless you know with certainty they are fake, how can you be so sure? As nobody collaborated for or against them.

> won’t hear a word of

Which Western friendly country would you like to highlight that we haven’t heard about? Which North Korea-like policies of those countries that you think nobody has talked about?

It’s ironic that you complain about fake news but hide behind a throwaway account, throwing around whataboutism with weasel words.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

#110
post #24

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If you were to believe them, Kim ate too much cheese and it forced him to disappear, and he died several times. Also he killed an uncle with an anti-aircraft gun, and he reappeared, so he fed him to dogs, then he reappeared again. (These are things they literally reported) Anyone who enjoys their reporting may also have an interest in Weekly World News.

Believe who? Dept of State? Dare to share references to the DoS-sourced articles you mention?

> Believe who?

I think they’re referring to Radio Free Asia.

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