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The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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This is bollocks. Speaking for Britain, and I think I can, there are hoards of would be victims to this kind of scam, particular of the current retirees generation, who are extremely vulnerable to having the wool pulled over their eyes about technical and internet security best practice matters, but for whom just so much as a poor turn of phrase or some unusually laid out punctuation is an absolute dead giveaway. If…

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Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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I think they just include abandoned shopping carts in this number

...and those abandoned shopping carts are from Google Search Bot which checked the product prices...

Wait, how does this work? Google bots this complex, or Etsy especially made it possible for Google bot? Also Etsy shows price directly on page, so whats the reason?

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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This is bollocks. Speaking for Britain, and I think I can, there are hoards of would be victims to this kind of scam, particular of the current retirees generation, who are extremely vulnerable to having the wool pulled over their eyes about technical and internet security best practice matters, but for whom just so much as a poor turn of phrase or some unusually laid out punctuation is an absolute dead giveaway. If…

Is it possible that scamming huge swathes of people would make said sacammer a victim of their own success and a prime target for the authorities?

Corrupt 3rd world Governents don’t care at all. If anything they tacitly Encourage it since they need money flowing in.

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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>because at the end of the day they don't speak English very well and don't have access to anyone who can. You believe they don't have access to fiverr or any of the numerous sites that will copy edit for a couple dollars of the thousands bucks they are scamming?

They probably don't realise their English is bad. Are you going to pay for a copyeditor if you don't realise you need one?

They are not THAT stupid. You need hear a native speaking for a couple seconds to notice that your English is not native-level

They don't do that because the promise of the scam is easy money. That means, low investment and high profit.

Imvesting time and money into proficiency level skills kinda defeats the point of working for a scam company.

At that point you'd rather find a legit job with a good salary for local standards

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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Same reason Nigerian 419 scammers continue to make it clear they're from Nigeria: If you're unaware enough not to know that "Nigeria" is a red flag for "scam," you're exactly the mark they want.

Microsoft has an amusingly academic take on this idea here (PDF):

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/...

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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This is bollocks. Speaking for Britain, and I think I can, there are hoards of would be victims to this kind of scam, particular of the current retirees generation, who are extremely vulnerable to having the wool pulled over their eyes about technical and internet security best practice matters, but for whom just so much as a poor turn of phrase or some unusually laid out punctuation is an absolute dead giveaway. If…

No this is a filter. It is the same reason why the wife of nelson mandela has millions to give. Any interaction after initial spam cost time and hence if there is no return it is lost opportunity. Best victims are the ones which are not aware that there is a scam at all. Overseeing bad spelling correlates with inability to read carefully which correlates with being with bad intelligence. So people answering very bad spam are in fact more likely very good victims.

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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While we've all heard the theory that poor spelling can be a tactic used to make their communication seem less credible and make it easier for them to trick people, I'm skeptical.

Many scammers may not be native English speakers and may not have a strong grasp of the language. Another possibility is that scammers simply don't put a lot of effort into their spelling and grammar because their primary focus is on making money, rather than creating well-written communications.

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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The theory I heard worked in the other direction: if we assume scammers have a finite amount of time, it could be in their interest to minimize the amount of "likely good targets" in order to increase the amount of " very likely good targets". So all those untapped potential targets are just too similar to non-good targets for them to discriminate effectively, leaving them so far focused on the lower-hanging fruit. I…

If we assume that scammers live in the developing world, their time is almost certainly not valued so highly that having a few more responses to copy/paste a unanswered requests for payment to is worth their bulk email losing a single wealthy Westerner that's trusting and unworldly but also a stickler for good grammar (or has a spam filter that knows a lot more about Nigerian princes than they do). I've seen in-perso…

Scam companies tend to hire those who either couldn't or didn't invest into a personal career. Some of these also have a gift for persuasion (to other locals) so they just go for it with what they have.

Once you start getting into the mindset of investing time for learning and development of skills, then it's just easier, safer and more profitable to go the legit way.

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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post #106
post #51

This is bollocks. Speaking for Britain, and I think I can, there are hoards of would be victims to this kind of scam, particular of the current retirees generation, who are extremely vulnerable to having the wool pulled over their eyes about technical and internet security best practice matters, but for whom just so much as a poor turn of phrase or some unusually laid out punctuation is an absolute dead giveaway. If…

No this is a filter. It is the same reason why the wife of nelson mandela has millions to give. Any interaction after initial spam cost time and hence if there is no return it is lost opportunity. Best victims are the ones which are not aware that there is a scam at all. Overseeing bad spelling correlates with inability to read carefully which correlates with being with bad intelligence. So people answering very bad…

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/...

Re: The clever reason scammers can’t spell (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>because at the end of the day they don't speak English very well and don't have access to anyone who can. You believe they don't have access to fiverr or any of the numerous sites that will copy edit for a couple dollars of the thousands bucks they are scamming?

They probably don't realise their English is bad. Are you going to pay for a copyeditor if you don't realise you need one?

I was making a counterpoint that the reason they have bad grammar is not lack of access to a way to make good grammar. The original thought about why the grammar is always bad on scams is simple. The bad grammar is a litmus test that your victim is dumb or mentally not able to analyze your scam so you know to dig in when you get a hit.
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