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Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by akmiller »

Ein2015 wrote: post #53
revscat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

Child porn is how .au passed their censorship stuff and it has quickly expanded. Child porn is already illegal and, in my opinion, doesn't need deep cutting censorship bills to combat.

Child porn is already illegal

Honest question, is it illegal everywhere? I'm just taking a stab in the dark that there are societies somewhere in this world that either haven't established laws or are terribly enforced if they do exist. Playing devils advocate what if a child porn site is hosted in that area, then what? I realize that the situation is unlikely but if it's possible wouldn't there need to be a way to handle it?

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by fuzzylizard »

maximusprime wrote: post #24
freejack wrote: post #12

This blog post from their lead lobbyist defending their support is absolutely grating. http://rudysyndrome.com/2011/10/28/online-copyright-laws-won... "Most of what we are seeing is either 1) rhetoric, 2) regurgitated lobbying spin, 3) criticism of language we have already fixed, or 4) retweets by people who like to steal music and buy fake, but cheap, goods." Ugh. (oBDisclaimer: I work for a registrar that unequivoc…

What does "Open Internet" mean though? You can't reasonably support free speech in all instances, just like you can't reasonably support an "open internet" in all instances. There have to be some exceptions. It's the listing of those exceptions and how you deal with them that's the tricky bit. So saying "I support an open internet" is just ignoring the issue.

To me, Open Internet is the same as an open city. SOPA is like going into a city and shutting down a street corner because someone was heard quoting passages from a book or giving away pirated movies. It's ridiculous. Instead of closing down the website (the street corner) close down the people behind the site.

The US, instead of enacting laws that restrict movement, needs to put into place laws that make copyright infringement illegal. Oh wait, they already have them.

In short, go after the people not the domain. I want to be able to walk around the internet the same way I can walk around a city. If there are seedy places online then it is my choice to avoid them and not the governments right to simply declare them quarantined or off limits.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by pwaring »

shimon_e wrote: post #78
akkartik wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but they make it back at renewal time. I've definitely paid them back several times over for the domains I registered with them for $1.

You can transfer them using the next cheapest transfer coupon to another provider.

How many people actually do that though? GoDaddy's model seems to be like the banks over in UK - offer a great introductory rate (with a 'bonus' that expires after a year) and then allow customer inertia to set in.

The fact that you can switch and that it makes financial sense to do so does not mean that people will.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by libraryatnight »

bronson wrote: post #92

There's no need to move all your domains today (that can be a HUGE job). Just pledge to not give GoDaddy another cent and move your domains as they expire. In five years, problem solved.

This what I'll likely end up doing, I only have, maybe, 60-70 names but that's a lot of money (for me) to move them all at once.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by gravitronic »

pyre wrote: post #71
thebigshane wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The purpose of loss-leading products/services is to get consumers to purchase other things and that is where they make a profit. If a large enough group only purchases loss-leading products/services and don't purchase anything else, GoDaddy should be at a loss.... until they change their pricing models, and then you can just boycott them all together.

Eniugh people dropping the service altogether + recommending against it when asked for advice would probably deal a larger blow. Especially if Godaddy can no longer claim the top spot and ride that popularity to get people to sign up that *don'tV only buy loss leaders

I bet most of the people smart enough to know about SOPA and fight it are not the people godaddy makes the majority of its profits on (ie, their "privacy" features, email and web hosting with all the unnecessary bells and whistles)

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by marchdown »

grecy wrote: post #100
revscat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

> 1) Child pornography Obviously this is an extremely touchy subject, but I think the fact you have even one exception shows you are not grasping the problem here. So in your country, "Child" may mean It just makes no sense to say "There are no exceptions. Except this one, that can be interpreted in hundreds of different ways". Once you leave it for interpretation, the scope will expand and expand until children are…

> the scope will expand and expand until children are being listed as sex offenders for taking photos of themselves.

The fact that this is already happening gives me chills.

We really need to openly discuss and codify the reasons behind the war on child pornography.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by pgeorgi »

akmiller wrote: post #101
Ein2015 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Child porn is how .au passed their censorship stuff and it has quickly expanded. Child porn is already illegal and, in my opinion, doesn't need deep cutting censorship bills to combat.

Child porn is already illegal Honest question, is it illegal everywhere? I'm just taking a stab in the dark that there are societies somewhere in this world that either haven't established laws or are terribly enforced if they do exist. Playing devils advocate what if a child porn site is hosted in that area, then what? I realize that the situation is unlikely but if it's possible wouldn't there need to be a way to h…

Politicians tried that line in Germany. They even gave a number of countries that have "no laws" or don't follow up on them.

For every country named, the ambassador to Germany was able to cite laws that prohibit child pornography (or just porn, eg. in countries with sharia law). In all cases, they stated interest in enforcement by their governments, too.

Given that they tried a couple of times, and failed just as often, I'll assume that no such country exists - otherwise some advisor to our local propagandists would have found and presented it on the second or third try.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by CWuestefeld »

citricsquid wrote: post #2

To put it frankly, godaddy don't give a shit. Their domain business exists as a way to get people into their other products, hosting, whois privacy etc. the ones that actually make money (nobody makes money on domains nowadays, savvy customers use coupons which godaddy provides a lot of). This won't do anything to Godaddy as a business, they'll be losing customers they don't care about -- unless people shutting off t…

Their domain business exists as a way to get people into their other products, hosting, whois privacy etc.

Obviously I'll be moving not only my domain names, but the two hosting accounts as well.

I just spoke to them on the phone, to figure out how to unlock the DNS registration. The rep had never even heard of SOPA.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by libraryatnight »

bad_user wrote: post #17

On one cheap Linode VPS instance I already have 5 websites hosted, plus a personal email server, plus several private git repositories, all for ~ $20 per month. I get my domains from other services, like namecheap.com; and good/cheap hosting for PHP stuff (and even Rails) can be found on DreamHost.com. There really isn't any reason for anybody to use GoDaddy anymore, unless you're hunting for their coupons, but in th…

Right now I'm hosting with Chunkhost, it was their free beta period that got me off the crummy shared account I was on with GD. I could never go back, now.
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