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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by quantified »

phpisthebest wrote: post #57
1attice wrote: post #30

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The man literally promoted the idea that Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked because he visits gay bars, or something. How is that not alt-right? Yet, I fear you may be correct about that 85% statistic, nevertheless.

Well I agree he needs to take some time to vett news sources as his (correct) position that more traditional news (like CNN, AP, etc) can not be trusted before tweeting out links, which he deleted shortly there after, I do not call that "promoted" but today words have no meaning so sure. This is the think impossible standard to have, and one of the reason many people like Elon is the fact he has no filter, and gives…

Unfiltered leaders tend to age like milk.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by bArray »

camdenlock wrote: post #94
bArray wrote: post #88

> What I’m doing · I’m not closing or deleting my account, because Twitter might come back, who knows. > I’ll still use Twitter to post pointers to ongoing pieces because that benefits me, not Elon. So not really leaving. > Are people really leaving Twitter? · Yes. [..] So, suppose I’m right about Twitter… The evidence is that Mastodon users are increasing, and therefore leaving Twitter. The assumption is that they a…

> All that said, this person was likely more suited to a platform of hot-takes, rather than deep thinking. As, of course, is jwz. Smart people who we admire for their thinking and writing on technology can be embarrassingly shallow when it comes to other domains, and (as I’ve reluctantly learned over the decades) can be safely ignored when they opine obviously way out of their depth.

> As, of course, is jwz.

I have their RSS feed just for the updates to the xscreensaver and the occasional interesting topic, but mostly ignore. I see some drama happening there quite frequently and I really don't want anything to do with it.

> Smart people who we admire for their thinking and writing on technology can be embarrassingly shallow when it comes to other domains [..]

That rings very true. I always got nervous when I saw one of the heavy weights such as Stephen Hawking weighing in on topics such as AI or alien biology. Or Richard Dawkins commenting on politics.

I think people generally are interested in how they may apply their minds in other topics, and when they give the crowd what they want, they fall short.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by HebericNewt »

rgbrenner wrote: post #55
progrus wrote: post #17

The same people who lost their marbles over COVID/fear of death are now losing their marbles again over a private platform being raided & turned into a public square. I stopped listening to these people years ago. Good riddance.

What’s the big deal? Isn’t this person free to choose where they spend their time? If they dont like Twitter they can leave. Isn’t that what freedom is all about? Seems to me that many on the right don’t actually care about freedom… but more about their ability to subject others to their ideas… apparently freedom is the right of republicans to force themselves on others and restrain their critics from leaving. What o…

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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by progrus »

HebericNewt wrote: post #103
rgbrenner wrote: post #55

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What’s the big deal? Isn’t this person free to choose where they spend their time? If they dont like Twitter they can leave. Isn’t that what freedom is all about? Seems to me that many on the right don’t actually care about freedom… but more about their ability to subject others to their ideas… apparently freedom is the right of republicans to force themselves on others and restrain their critics from leaving. What o…

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Not a fascist, but I understand the deep pain and anger behind these statements.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by chitowneats »

suzzer99 wrote: post #22

A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Their enemies list: https://twitter.com/elmforkJBGC/status/1596041824573198336 Python script to mass report: https://twitter.com/WhiteRoseAFA/status/1596236817858056192

Twitter is very clear about its policy of banning accounts that promote real world violence.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by chitowneats »

throw0101c wrote: post #85
branon wrote: post #15

Nice. I've always been a firm believer that you haven't _really_ left a platform unless you first make a blog post loudly proclaiming that you're _definitely leaving_ but this guy takes it a few steps further by: - keeping his account active, poised to return immediately (but still, definitely leaving) - maybe posting on Twitter occasionally to point people to ongoing resources (but still, definitely leaving) - highl…

> Nice. I've always been a firm believer that you haven't _really_ left a platform unless you first make a blog post loudly proclaiming that you're _definitely leaving_ but this guy takes it a few steps further by: "This guy" is Tim Bray, who quit as a VP of AWS over its treatment of employees: * https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tim-bray-quit-amazon-web-se... * https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/04/29/Leavi…

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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by taolegal »

tapoxi wrote: post #42
phpisthebest wrote: post #25

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I am increasingly shocked that how mainstream traditional mainstreet political views are now viewed as "alt-right" online by the perpetual online class If Elon is alt-right then 85% of the US population is "alt-right"

Musk argued that Nancy Pelosi's husband was beaten by a gay lover to downplay the fact that a crazy far-right nutjob broke into their home and beat an elderly man with a hammer while demanding to see the Speaker of the House. That's pretty disgusting.

Tons of people on the left cheered on rand paul's neighbor when paul was violently attacked and seriously injured.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by cplusplusfellow »

Pxtl wrote: post #24
cplusplusfellow wrote: post #13

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Similar to my commentary in other threads today. You basically won’t ever hear someone refer to a person as “center right” anymore. We can only hear that they are “far right” and that your average communist is “center left”. Just absurd.

Because so much of the modern right has hitched its wagon to COVID conspiracy theories, climate change denial, transphobia, election denial, etc. "Centre right", to my mind is "cut taxes and solve policy problems with the free market", not "everybody involved in supporting trans children is secretly pedophiles". And there just aren't a lot of those in media discourse anymore.

You can downvote me all you like but you live in a bubble and it would benefit you to get out of it.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by pacomerh »

bArray wrote: post #99
suzzer99 wrote: post #22

A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Their enemies list: https://twitter.com/elmforkJBGC/status/1596041824573198336 Python script to mass report: https://twitter.com/WhiteRoseAFA/status/1596236817858056192

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You're simplifying the opposition to fascism too much. For ex. when Antifa were destroying things in protest to police brutality against people of color. Many thought this was unjustified and wrong. Imagine your people were being killed unfairly; how would you react?. I'm not saying all the destruction is the best way, but they can't just be silent about it right. Ignoring the real cause for a protest is easy when it doesn't affect you.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by taolegal »

theGnuMe wrote: post #44
nomilk wrote: post #12

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My primary argument against banning (the right, or anyone) is I'm big enough to decide for myself if I want to listen/read them. When a platform makes the call on my behalf, they could be removing dissenting but legitimately truthful voices. I.e. people who have unpopular but true views, people who IMO should absolutely be heard out, but aren't because they're banned. A 2nd order effect is people self censor, since s…

A small vocal minority of hate will eventually become mainstream if good people stand by and do nothing. Watch as Elon eviscerates the mainstream media. He already calls many legit publications disinformation, saying that twitter will be the best and most truthful source of news itself. It's straight out of Trump's playbook. These are the the robber barons of the Internet. Hearst has nothing on them. I see it as the…

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