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Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very similar path to the one that Skitch and Dropbox took. In each case, instead of perfecting and maintaining a really good app, business pressures caused them to pursue growth at all costs. This is a common problem these days.

I think more tech companies need to give up on growth mode and be OK with just being a regular old dividend paying company. I mean honestly, how big can some note-taking app possibly get? Or Snap for instance, which is getting into hardware, into content creation, etc. Who asked for this? I think the business and the users would be better served with being realistic about what an app is for and doubling down on a goo…

More companies should just stay private and grow organically.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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You just can't make this shit up. Evernote was basically a no-service from the get-go. It was an app built around the fact that sooner or later they would force users to pay. Popular around that point in time. Slack, Miro and so on had similar plans. At least Slack kinda works without paying.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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post #67

Over the years I've realized that I don't actually care for or need the "note taking" part of applications like these. What I need is a textual data store that can be efficiently and effectively indexed, searched and (automatically) tagged, and for the ability to quickly filter streams and feeds of targeted information from that data store (with the option to share them publicly via RSS - my public feeds are in my pr…

> Nobody seemed interested in making this so I just made it myself and I've been using it for the last 2 years very happily. Based on your profile, I presume you're talking about https://notado.app/ ?

Yes, Notado is the labour of love that I'm talking about in the parent post :)

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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post #67

Over the years I've realized that I don't actually care for or need the "note taking" part of applications like these. What I need is a textual data store that can be efficiently and effectively indexed, searched and (automatically) tagged, and for the ability to quickly filter streams and feeds of targeted information from that data store (with the option to share them publicly via RSS - my public feeds are in my pr…

This is the same use case I have, I use Evernote notably because of the excellent web scraper. Can you share more about your software?

I don't want to derail the comments on this post too much, but it's called Notado (another commenter has already linked it) and I have posted about it a few times on HN before (all in my submissions history).

There are quite a few high-quality discussion threads on those previous posts that are worth checking out if you're interested in learning more!

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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I've tried a number of alternatives and keep coming back to Evernote's legacy apps (Windows and Android). The features I use are just right, and syncing just works, always. A key feature for me is being able to (with the legacy desktop app) open multiple notes at once, something that I've not seen anywhere else. (I assume this is because the legacy app is a native Windows executable, whereas multiple windows are not…

I've been a regular Evernote paying user since the mid-naughts, using it mostly as a document archive (the built-in OCR is nice) ... but usage kicked off for me when I switched my main workhorse to a MacBook Pro two months ago. I guess it's mostly related to Evernote suddenly being fast.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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post #67

Over the years I've realized that I don't actually care for or need the "note taking" part of applications like these. What I need is a textual data store that can be efficiently and effectively indexed, searched and (automatically) tagged, and for the ability to quickly filter streams and feeds of targeted information from that data store (with the option to share them publicly via RSS - my public feeds are in my pr…

I used to love these. When OneNote first came out, it was everything I ever wanted and more.

I think the later versions got worse. Eventually I switched PCs and it had an error syncing my notebooks. There was a mix of local and cloud copies, randomly, and it worked like 3 separate accounts on the same ID that could never combine files.

I did a sync anyway and it just deleted a bunch of notebooks randomly, and one of them became corrupted so I lost a ton of data.

I just use text files in a folder now after apple notes had an update once a few years ago that snuck in a “you consent to irreversibly delete all old notes to use the new version” in small text on the “what’s new” pop up, as if that’s not a critical thing to double confirm.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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My take? Evernote failed because it's a Feature, Not a Company ("FNAC") [1]. There are lots of examples of this. Just because something is a good idea doesn't make it a viable standalone business.

Evernote was early in this space but it already competed with (for eample) sending yourself emails. Nowadays there are all sorts of alternatives like Apple has a note-taking app on their devices, which is just free (it might use storage but that's a minor issue). Likewise, you can use Google Apps.

Evernote's attempts to make it a business by introducing the friction of a subscription to get syncing beyond 2 devices (and other variants I'm forgetting I'm sure) just exposed this FNAC problem.

Now could this have been leveraged to build a sustainable business of which note syncing was a part? Maybe. But that's not exactly easy either.

[1]: https://bothsidesofthetable.com/explaining-fnac-feature-not-...

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nobody seemed interested in making this so I just made it myself and I've been using it for the last 2 years very happily. Based on your profile, I presume you're talking about https://notado.app/ ?

Yes, Notado is the labour of love that I'm talking about in the parent post :)

I'm also very interested in this, but particularly the book part, which I couldn't find on the website linked above, unless it only works with Kindle highlights?

I have a gigantic EPUB library and have yet to find a good way to export my notes and highlights from all these books (mostly read in KOreader).

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