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SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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post #18

Is anyone else an avid iPhone user, yet also someone who never uses Siri? I've used an iPhone exclusively for the past 8 years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've used Siri. Interestingly, the one person I know who loves using Siri is my 70yr old dad.

I only enabled Siri because it was necessary for CarPlay, it's about a 50% success rate on getting anything right on the first try.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

#102

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Man, I used to love using Siri, until I had a daughter and named her "Sarah" big mistake. Turns out I say "Hey Sarah" a hundred times a day, and all my iDevices pipe up and simultaneously say "Yeah?" "WHAT'S UP" "HEY OVER HERE" "Hi it's me Siri what do you need?"

Why did you pick 'Sarah'

“You’re naming your children wrong.” — Jeve Stobs.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Yes, the question is how to permanently restrict the attack surface / time windows for audio and video surveillance attacks.

Instead of Bluetooth defaulting to on, and re-enabling itself next day if you turn it off from the control center, I'd like for Bluetooth to default to off. You'd have to enable it from the control center, and it would disable itself after a certain period of inactivity. I suppose that won't happen, as it would wreck the Find My network if it depends solely on Bluetooth.

When you turn off bluetooth from CC, it’s not even turning it off. The radio is still on - it just doesn’t make any new connections. You have to turn it off in preferences for that.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

#104
post #18

Is anyone else an avid iPhone user, yet also someone who never uses Siri? I've used an iPhone exclusively for the past 8 years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've used Siri. Interestingly, the one person I know who loves using Siri is my 70yr old dad.

I only ever use it in the car with CarPlay.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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> Find out how much the vuln is worth in the black market, then ask Apple double that. Well, because he is not a corporation, he will get jumped on by lawyers and will go to jail for blackmailing Apple.

Blackmailing? It's called negotiating from a strong position.

That really depends how will judge and lawyers look on it.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

#106
post #18

Is anyone else an avid iPhone user, yet also someone who never uses Siri? I've used an iPhone exclusively for the past 8 years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've used Siri. Interestingly, the one person I know who loves using Siri is my 70yr old dad.

I switched from Android a few years ago because my company gives out iphones as a perk. I used "ok google" extensively, and loved it. It was incredibly good at answering obscure questions and doing things like navigating or playing a song. It would do what I wanted almost every time, even if I was trying a new command for the first time.

I try to use Siri for the same things, but she suuuuuuucks. If I ask her to play a song, 9 out of 10 times it will do something idiotic- like I say "hey siri play tears in heaven on spotify", she might reply "now playing tears in heaven by a shitty kazoo cover band". If I say "navigate to the closest olive garden", it would say "navigating to olive garden corporate headquarters, estimated travel time 43 hours 12 minutes." But never mind, I can see the olive garden I was looking for, it's at the end of the street I'm on.

These are artificial examples because I can't remember specifics right now, but trust me - the real examples were just as dumb.

She's great at setting timers or alarms though! And I can reliably use her to pause, skip, or adjust volume when I'm showering or something.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

#108
post #79

I think they burried the lede here. Conversations with Siri are probably pretty generic but being able to evesdrop on keyboard dictation is pretty severe. I know people that use dictation for the majority of their text messages and email.

How many people use diction? I'm surprised cause I know virtually no one who uses diction, myself included.

I use it when I want to send a text message that's longer than a few words. As long as I can do that without being a jerk to those around me.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

#109
post #32

Don't forget that iOS and macOS silently re-enable Bluetooth on every software update. https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/bluetooth.html

Even worse, Control Panel buttons only "suspend" BT/WiFi, you have to go into Settings to turn them off again ... and again ... and again.

I called this a data grab from day 1 and stand by that. The amount of fellow iOS developers I've had argue for the "convenience" is astounding. There should be a settings toggle to control the auto-reenable behavior.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

#110
post #18

Is anyone else an avid iPhone user, yet also someone who never uses Siri? I've used an iPhone exclusively for the past 8 years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've used Siri. Interestingly, the one person I know who loves using Siri is my 70yr old dad.

iPhone user since 2009. I used Siri for about a month when it first came out because I really liked hearing a British man's voice said "SSSSHedule" to me instead of "skedule", but then I learned it was sending all audio to the cloud and noped out.
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