This guy's argument seems to lead to, "Apple has designed the ultimate possible tablet shape," which I don't believe in the least. Samsung obviously copied their design concept, and didn't even try to improve on it. How about a rubberized, textured back, like the Kobo ebook reader?
Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#102I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing.
Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector?
I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical.
Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn't a shameless industrial design thief that can also account for their USB connector, I will be very impressed. It is, to me, the smoking gun. Don't tell me it's the only way to design a low-profile USB connector. It's the only way when Apple does it – everyone else has been doing fine with USB mini and micro.
Samsung: http://i.imgur.com/eyqGw.jpg
Apple: http://i.imgur.com/nh0eI.jpg
Everyone else: http://i.imgur.com/vpPhZ.jpg
Oh, and for thoroughness, how Amazon designed a beautiful USB micro cable that looked nothing at all like Apple's: http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Replacement-Display-Generation-...
Maybe Apple had a time machine and traveled into the future, stealing Samsung's wholly original USB cable design?
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think his point is the original JooJoo design, which he provides, looked a lot less like the iPad.
But it fulfills most of the things apple is claiming that Samsung infringed upon except the color black.
Besides the sibling comment point here, its power button is placed for the right thumb in landscape mode. The icon on it tells you which way is "up".
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
But how can this be? Steve Jobs himself said: "iPad creates and defines an entirely new category of devices" Clearly, JooJoo was copied from Apple.
Yes, it changes everything. If not everything is changed, how can Steve be right? Steve is right therefore everything is changed
Glory be to Jobs!
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#105The author invested quite some time to make his point, however, I disagree. First of all, if this is the only possible way for a tablet to look, why did all the other Microsoft tablets up to the iPad look vastly different? Second, there're two famuos quotes: "The obvious is always least understood." and "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei The…
Maybe, but how successful were those Microsoft tablets.
"the only possible way for a tablet to look"
He never said that, he is claiming that most of the properties Apple is disputing are the best way to design an object like this, which is a perfectly reasonable argument.
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#106See, to me, Samsung does have an issue here, but it's not about the "rounded rectangle" shape or the "reasonably thick black bezel": it's the fact they have both of those, like the iPad, but then also surround them with a marginal silver border. I own both the Galaxy Tab 10.1" and an iPad 2, and I actually do get confused between the two all the time, when looking at them from above. They're about the same thickness…
Perhaps this is somewhat off topic, but what do you actually use so many tablets for? I can definitely see the appeal of a tablet, but I can't really imagine a usage scenario that requires the specific features of one of four different tablets.
I would guess he is a developer who writes for multiple platforms (i.e. tablets) and wants the hardware to test on.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#107See, to me, Samsung does have an issue here, but it's not about the "rounded rectangle" shape or the "reasonably thick black bezel": it's the fact they have both of those, like the iPad, but then also surround them with a marginal silver border. I own both the Galaxy Tab 10.1" and an iPad 2, and I actually do get confused between the two all the time, when looking at them from above. They're about the same thickness…
Perhaps this is somewhat off topic, but what do you actually use so many tablets for? I can definitely see the appeal of a tablet, but I can't really imagine a usage scenario that requires the specific features of one of four different tablets.
Consider cross platform development, online services, or end user support.
Our customers expect streaming video to work regardless of what bizarro device their end user walked out of a store with after getting shaken down by a spectacularly uninformed clerk. :-)
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#108What I like about the rounded corners debate is the Job's quote/story:
Steve suddenly got more intense. "Rectangles with rounded corners are everywhere! Just look around this room!". And sure enough, there were lots of them, like the whiteboard and some of the desks and tables. Then he pointed out the window. "And look outside, there's even more, practically everywhere you look!". He even persuaded Bill to take a quick walk around the block with him, pointing out every rectangle with rounded corners that he could find.
So, are they everywhere, or are they innovative? ;)
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Round_Rects_Are_E...
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#109This article is fraught with frustratingly-incorrect use of the word "design". The author continually mistakes "design" for visual appearance.
"Apple never designed the iPad. They undesigned the tablet. They focused on creating the simplest form possible. Every single decision is based on usability, readability, comfort, and focusing your eyes on the content itself."
That's exactly what design is: finding the problems that need to be solved and devising a solution that solves them. One that respects usability, readability, comfort, etc.
"The shape of a tablet has nothing to do with design. It is simple logic."
Wrong again.
"Again, this has nothing to do with design. The width of the margin is an engineering problem with only one solution."
And again. It is a design decision.
"Again, none of this is a design problem. It is all about usability."
Because usability has nothing to do with design... nope.
"What has happened here is that Samsung has been forced to add design elements that don't need to be there."
Here you mean "visual elements" not "design elements".
"Again, this has nothing to do with design. This is an engineering constraint." (talking about the batteries)
Still wrong, it has something to do with design. This however is the only one that gets close to its claim.
The author makes a lot of interesting points, but he clearly doesn't know what "design" means.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#110I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…
A wide plug is less likely to get jostled out by moving the cord sideways back and forth. It's fairly common sense.