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Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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"If the lights and the T.V. are out, it kind of sets the table for romance . . . But, if you're running for your life, you can't make babies." - https://www.cargenerator.com/blogs/news/is-the-blackout-baby... Baby booms have previously been positively correlated with blackouts, snowstorms, hurricanes and power outages. Now, remote work is a covariate as well. We're heading into a prolonged 2023 recession, coupled wit…

> huge baby boom in 2024

Good. The US needs the new tax base.

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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Typically, infants are at 1:4 ratio and toddlers 1:7 and at 3 year olds, 1:10. (Massachusetts has a 2:7 infant ratio). Having managed 1 infant myself, even 1:4 seems like a lot of responsibility. I would not want my infant or toddler to be watched over by more lenient ratios.

There's a strong (underappreciated?) interaction with parental leave too. If people got six months or a year, there would be far fewer babies in that labor-intensive category.

The fact that the US goes out of its way to legislate breast pump breaks and pumping rooms at work rather than just legislate 1 year of parental leave so a mom can properly breastfeed her child is insane.

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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post #66

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Yeah its really insane. The child care space has been legislated into un-affordability. Between licensing requirements, staffing ratios, building codes, and a litany of other requirements its a service that can basically only be provided to upper middle class families if not HEAVILY subsidized.

Even if subsidized, if there aren't providers it doesn't actually fix the problem. Here in WA we have the Fair Start act to provide subsidies, but where it gets weird now is... does government step in and also start state-funded care facilities to cover the gap? Or does government create incentives to bring more private care providers into the market? As you point out, there's also a question of whether we've created…

I guess it's a matter of social networking, but I would think essentially any stay-at-home mom could still take in a few kids. It wouldn't even occur to me to check whether that's "allowed".

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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We had two kids largely because my wife was resigned to her career already being destroyed, so why not?

> wife was resigned to her career already being destroyed Really? She traded one job for another or does corporate life really matter that much to her?

A fairly significant amount of women have dedicated a decent amount of time, and money, academically, socially, etc. To their careers.

Why, some women have even found working to be more enjoyable to being at home with kids.

All joking aside, my wife is extremely worried about the impact her career will take from having children and her life goals include executive level leadership as part of her career. So you could, in fact say that corporate life really does matter that much to her.

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

#105
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah its really insane. The child care space has been legislated into un-affordability. Between licensing requirements, staffing ratios, building codes, and a litany of other requirements its a service that can basically only be provided to upper middle class families if not HEAVILY subsidized.

Even if subsidized, if there aren't providers it doesn't actually fix the problem. Here in WA we have the Fair Start act to provide subsidies, but where it gets weird now is... does government step in and also start state-funded care facilities to cover the gap? Or does government create incentives to bring more private care providers into the market? As you point out, there's also a question of whether we've created…

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Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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The article says, "Much of that cohort was able to work from home, which gave parents more time and flexibility to deal with the life changes and demands that pregnancy and a new baby bring." I guess it's indelicate to say that when a man and woman are both stuck at home, more babies will be conceived. People who were unattached during the lockdown were probably less likely to find a mate, though.

It reads more as if both parents are at home, being able to take care of another newborn/infant/toddler becomes more manageable.

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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Not having kids I didn't realize how insane childcare costs had gotten. Someone posted an article to a local reddit that says people are pre-registering unborn children for childcare because there are so few slots available. Others responses indicated that it's running around $1500 to $2000/month for childcare. Add in housing costs and no wonder people are hesitant to have kids now.

I can't wrap my head around this insane US model that takes grandparents out of the picture. Maybe it's because moving is so easy? But grandparents love grandkids and they do it for free - it's a win-win.

I would suggest that most grandparents don't want to look after their grandkids for 40 hours a week. And for that matter, many grandparents have jobs of their own – the average age of a first time grandparent in the USA is 50.

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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post #87

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In New York the ratio for children 2 and under is 1:2.

In NY, it is 1:3 up to 6 weeks and 1:4 after 6 weeks for day care centers. See page 22: https://www.ocfs.ny.gov/programs/childcare/regulations/418-1... The 1:2 ratio is for “family daycare”, whatever that means. That is on page 19 of this document: https://www.ocfs.ny.gov/programs/childcare/regulations/417-F...

It has to do with facility type, I believe. I think operations run out of homes are “family daycare,” but I’m not 100% sure.

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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That's apparently one big driver in the labor shortage. Childcare costs were so high that when everyone was home people realized the second job wasn't actually that useful and now there's one stay-at-home parent (seems weighted towards mothers[0]). [0] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/01/14/some-gender...

Not having kids I didn't realize how insane childcare costs had gotten. Someone posted an article to a local reddit that says people are pre-registering unborn children for childcare because there are so few slots available. Others responses indicated that it's running around $1500 to $2000/month for childcare. Add in housing costs and no wonder people are hesitant to have kids now.

> people are pre-registering unborn children for childcare because there are so few slots available.

Shit I have to do this too? I’ve already started saving for the unreasonable cost of college, and the cost of childbirth, and the unreasonable cost of a large (enough) house in my metro. But now this?!

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

#110

I can understand that it's probably easier to track the numbers of children born to 'women' instead of 'parents', but my observation has been that remote work has resulted in a sea change as to what it means to be a full time working parent. My boss works long hours and now has 2 kids under the age of 4. Pre-Covid he would have been out of the house from about 7-7 and only able to have moments of interaction at the e…

“ If we're not careful the kids are going to be going back to class and correcting their teachers”

I will say, as a former teacher, I loved being corrected.

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