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The Ungodly Surveillance of Anti-Porn ‘Shameware’ Apps

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There are numerous cases of changes to "sexual orientation".

We can argue the validity of people's claims to have changed their orientation back and forth, but the science is in: >Some of the largest studies report little to no reported change in sexual orientation, and reports of success are unpersuasive due to serious methodological limitations and sometimes major flaws in study designs. >Evidence of harm associated with conversion therapy outweighs reports of some benefits,…

Your bias and the bias of the study you cited are painfully obvious and assume a particular point of view as valid while rejecting others. The whole concept of the study is framed in a utilitarian value system. If you had a thousand similar studies you wouldn't proven anything to someone who does not hold to an empirical and utilitarian worldview because the questions that the study is asking are ultimately philosophical, epistemological, and moral. As such these questions transcend the usefulness of observational science. The study is worded in such a way as to sound very thorough but if you look at Appendix 2 you can see that even by empirical standards the evidence they have chosen to consider is slanted to a particular subset of the available data, let alone the anecdotal evidence which surrounds the researchers on all sides.

In other words all you've truly pointed out with this post is that the various members of the UK government have policy goals and that they are willing to use science as a cudgel to achieve their policy goals.

Re: The Ungodly Surveillance of Anti-Porn ‘Shameware’ Apps

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Search engines find lots of things, including misinformation. Also, people can read a source and misunderstand it, or ignore the parts that are inconvenient for them. That's why links to specific pages are useful. For example, let's look at the second link... The study itself explicitly mentions that correlation is not causation. For example, erectile dysfunction correlate with long-term porn use. Okay, but does it p…

Not really sure what your response has to do with the previous chain. someone asked for evidence related to the harm of porn that was not associated with religious sources, and I provided it. My snarky remark was simply to point out the commenters willful ignorance on the subject (ie requiring others to provide easily accessible pieces of information). What I did not do is say that this is conclusive evidence or that it must be interpreted a certain way.

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The idea that good and evil are up for grabs, and that Christian faith has no say to define it is bigotry.

> The idea that good and evil are up for grabs, and that Christian faith has no say to define it is bigotry. Good and evil are very straightforward, you don't need any book to learn it: just do as little harm as possible, and help when you can. That's it. The other kind of good and evil, the one encoded in government laws, should not be involved with religion. Religion is notorious for being biased towards its member…

How do you define harm? I hope you have a straightforward answer.
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