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Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by yamtaddle »

BurningFrog wrote: post #19
dmos62 wrote: post #5

I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

That's why I can't do running. I can't get over the fact that it's a painful way to get from A to A. Some optimizing party of me is always screaming WE COULD JUST HAVE STAYED AT A! Now, if they're is a ball to chase and a game to win, I can run until I fall over...

Exactly the same, plus the weird effect that when I finish a run I spend the rest of the day feeling like I'm coming down with the flu, while if I play a ball-chasing game so intensely that I puke, I feel invincible the rest of the day (win or lose). All in my head, I guess, but I can't shake the feeling that one leaves me unhealthy while the other leaves me healthy. Really strange—and that, on top of one being the most boring thing I've ever done on purpose and the other being really fun.

So yeah, running... not for me.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

#102

Post by troon-lover »

js2 wrote: post #68
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't even imagine. I'm gassed at that pace after a couple of KM.

I have a 1:28 half-marathon PR, a 3:07 marathon PR, I've twice run 100 miles in under 24 hours, and I can't imagine even more. That said, the marathon WR is 2:01:39 which is 4:38.39/mile (2:52.98/km). So Sorokin is running about 55% slower than that, or what would be considered an easy pace for an elite marathoner. AFAIK, we have yet to see an elite marathoner transition to ultras. However, there are quite a few elit…

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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by Dangeranger »

foobarian wrote: post #80
dmos62 wrote: post #5

I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

My problem with running was knee malfunction. I don't know how people do it short of just accepting the damage and/or getting mechanical replacements.

Try going for shorter distances, at slower speeds, with less hills, more often.

Make sure that you have 2-3 rest days per week for the first 60-90 days, then it’s okay to start ramping up by adding 10% more miles per week.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by phasersout »

CitrusFruits wrote: post #13
dmos62 wrote: post #5

I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

I've been a runner for a long time and this is absolutely a thing, it's not just you. Running do over an hour gets boring unless you're trail running and have different scenery to look forward to. That being said, a lot of people get bored (or worse, are actively displeased) much quicker and can't even run without music to entertain them.

I run without any noise and sometimes I do when the track goes through a nice forest or so. But for anything longer than 3 - 5 km there is gladly no shortage of music-playlists, podcasts or audio books to choose from.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by mytailorisrich »

milansuk wrote: post #57
ryannevius wrote: post #20

Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

I downloaded .gpx of the run and it's 6.7MB. He started with 4min/km pace, held it for 130km(9 hours) and then He "slowed down" almost linearly to 5min/km when he finished.

I've taken to running during my lunch break in March this year and I can now run a 5k most days of the week at a 5:30 per km pace.

So I can't even imagine how he does that.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

#107

Post by ryeights »

yamtaddle wrote: post #101
BurningFrog wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I can't do running. I can't get over the fact that it's a painful way to get from A to A. Some optimizing party of me is always screaming WE COULD JUST HAVE STAYED AT A! Now, if they're is a ball to chase and a game to win, I can run until I fall over...

Exactly the same, plus the weird effect that when I finish a run I spend the rest of the day feeling like I'm coming down with the flu, while if I play a ball-chasing game so intensely that I puke, I feel invincible the rest of the day (win or lose). All in my head, I guess, but I can't shake the feeling that one leaves me unhealthy while the other leaves me healthy . Really strange—and that, on top of one being the…

You might be overtraining! While a more intense run can certainly have that effect, especially to a new or infrequent runner, a light effort jog (zone 1 heart rate or below) usually leaves you feeling better than you started.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

#108

Post by travisjungroth »

speakfreely wrote: post #74
joelrunyon wrote: post #4

This type of distance / pace is hard for some people to even grasp. This line helps sum it up nicely: > That’s 7:15 per mile or 4:30 per kilometer for 24 straight hours. Incredible

Anyone who can run 5 miles at 7:15 pace is a pretty well conditioned athlete. If you can keep that pace for an hour, that shows some determination. Multiple hours is an incredible feat. 24 hours is just suprahuman.

The standard to pass the first phase of US Army Ranger School is 5 miles at 8:00 pace. Those aren't pro runners by any means, but shows a standard for a rather well conditioned group of people. They also need to do 49 push-ups and 59 sit-ups in 2 minutes each, plus 6 pull-ups.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by xhrpost »

jordanmoconnor wrote: post #21
typon wrote: post #10

How much weight did he lose? It's quite amazing how calorie dense our energy storage mechanisms are.

Someone on Twitter calculated about 55,000 calories burned. Not sure if he had things to consume while running - but 8 - 10 lbs of fat burned in one day is wild to think about.

IIRC, a gallon of gasoline is about 37,000 calories. So that's a lot of energy he utilized, all through his body burning fat and carbs!

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by stevesimmons »

cafard wrote: post #11
joelrunyon wrote: post #4

This type of distance / pace is hard for some people to even grasp. This line helps sum it up nicely: > That’s 7:15 per mile or 4:30 per kilometer for 24 straight hours. Incredible

Back in the 80s, Yannis Kouros seemed to be able to crank out 6:30 miles for many hours a day, for several days in a row. But I don't remember how many hours--eight or ten maybe.

Yannis Kouros was a legend. When I was a teenage, he was a 5-time winner of the Sydney to Melbourne Ultramarathon, from 1985 to 1990. The distance was 800-1000km. It took 5-6 days, running non-stop.

He was so much better than everyone else that "in 1988, the race organiser challenged him to start 12 hours behind the rest of the field. Kouros overtook his competitors and won the race with a one-hour lead over New Zealander Dick Tout." [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_to_Melbourne_Ultramarat...

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