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Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same reason as they offer free TLS termination. Someone is paying for all of that unencrypted and/or de-anonymized traffic across an increasingly large portion of all internet activity.

Any source for that disparaging claim?

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Re: Cloudflare Warp

#102

I have a fun story about using Warp while on vacation (Bahamas). I was finding that my net traffic felt like it was slower/more variable than I'd expect with uneven speedups and slowdowns. On a whim I installed and turned on Warp and suddenly my internet speed was both palpably faster and more consistent in its speed. I think it possible that one of the side effects of encrypting your traffic may be that it evades IS…

Back when I used Visible (North American MVNO) for my phone, you could get substantially faster speeds and less latency by enabling Warp because it bypassed their traffic shaping and limited egress points, for example if you viewed Netflix without Warp you were throttled to 480p but with Warp you could easily do 1080p.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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post #94

Kinda uneasy about how Cloudflare is positioning themselves to have insight into a huge chunk of the Internet's traffic (very much like Google has). Even though there's no visible abuse right now, you know, Google's motto also used to be "don't be evil".

Cloudflare recently hijacked the domain of one of their customers (RaidForums), then cloned the RaidForums login page, and ran a phishing campaign at the behest of the FBI for two weeks. I understand that you have to comply with law enforcement, but actively attacking the users of one of your customer's websites is super rude.

This is a pretty wild mischaracterization. "I can't believe they let the FBI tell them what to do" is an incredibly bad take.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#104
Most of the time the fastest way to any given site is to avoid unnecessary network hops.

Now maybe CF have a more efficient route here or there but really I can’t believe that for most people it’ll be faster.

As for security or privacy I can’t imagine they’re much safer than browsing most HTTPS sites directly. There’s nothing to say they’ll be able to resist a secret US government subpoena for records either.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#105
Cloudflare is shoving Warp down any open throat they see. It's really annoying. I recently did some sales calls with them and they really want everyone using Warp.

I'm sure that the traffic analysis it unlocks for them is incredibly valuable. But I'll never use this.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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post #43

I’ve been a Warp+ user for some time now and I’m mostly happy. My online privacy is important to me. I use ad blockers too in addition to cloudflare. A couple of things I’ve noticed along the way… 1. Switching off my wi-fi network and then rejoining later used to be an issue but seems to have resolved some time ago (mobile) 2. It seems on macOS that almost every time I login I need to update the client. 3. Usually si…

Biggest pain points with Warp for me are lately, due to all the abuse by scrapers and such, quite a few sites just throw a 403 when I try to connect to them through Warp including my bank-- consider yourself lucky that you haven't been affected yet. And, most of the time, if I try to use Google search, I just get,

"Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot."

And, then I am encouraged to enable js so google can provide me a series of captchas to solve.

It used to work better than a VPN terminating at my own VPS, but now Warp netblocks appear to have a worse reputation than even a colocrossing/low-end box vps.

Per Cloudflare's FAQ, sites behind cloudflare see your original IP, other sites do not yet:

https://developers.cloudflare.com/warp-client/known-issues-a...

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#107
post #104

Most of the time the fastest way to any given site is to avoid unnecessary network hops. Now maybe CF have a more efficient route here or there but really I can’t believe that for most people it’ll be faster. As for security or privacy I can’t imagine they’re much safer than browsing most HTTPS sites directly. There’s nothing to say they’ll be able to resist a secret US government subpoena for records either.

You'd be surprised at the poor path that the average packet takes. Cloudflare has lots of PoPs that are very close to major cities so it is very conceivable that if that brings you to a higher quality backbone it would result in better performance overall. I don't know about the quality of Cloudflare's backbone but at Google you could definitely get noticeably better performance by quickly getting into the Google backbone and popping back onto the internet near your destination.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#108

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Is their DDOS service censored?

They have terminated service for 8chan, The Daily Stormer, and KiwiFarms. I'll leave it up to you to determine how fair of a description "censored" is.

Even though those three website are filth, they have objectively been censored by Cloudflare. What's the confusion here? Just be honest about it and say Cloudflare censors content they don't agree with. Why the tiptoeing around this fact?

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#109

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Unfortunately not.

>people who disagree with me shouldn’t get to use the internet Ok.

People who spread hatred and intentionally cause real-world harm to others shouldn't be supported and enabled by private companies I deal with. If they continue to do so, they'll lose me as a customer.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare recently hijacked the domain of one of their customers (RaidForums), then cloned the RaidForums login page, and ran a phishing campaign at the behest of the FBI for two weeks. I understand that you have to comply with law enforcement, but actively attacking the users of one of your customer's websites is super rude.

This is a pretty wild mischaracterization. "I can't believe they let the FBI tell them what to do" is an incredibly bad take.

It is a problem when you centralize the Internet like this though.

The more of the Internet you've got running through your service, the more appealing a target you are for not only domestic government pressure, but attempts from foreign state actors to compromise the service (through not only hacking, but espionage and blackmail as well).

It's not great.

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