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Our attention span is being robbed

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Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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> Maybe something that I’ve learned in therapy COULD be entertained as a possibility. It’s a technique that I don’t even know HOW it’s called but it boils down to dedicating 45mins to grievance. As in – you dedicate 45mins per day when you can focus on grieving (e.g. over a failed relationship) and at any other time of the day you have to delay doing it until your 45-mins-of-grief time comes. 45min-1hr of mindfulness…

What's your favorite resource for learning mindfulness?

Calm app's Daily Calm with Tamara Levitt. She's a great teacher.

Overall, it's learned through practice. My style is something I like to call, Calm Zen.

I start with a daily calm session (~10min) and follow it with 20min zazen, which is a pretty basic sitting meditation style. I count breaths mentally on the exhale to 10, then start back at 1.

I find tangible results from practicing daily for at least 20min per day. Some have measured results from less, but it doesn't seem to be the case for me.

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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post #35

Thinking out loud here...is it possible to use the same patterns for good? Like, infinite scroll, bite-sized chunk UI, etc. that trick our minds into reading a full book?

See "Hundreds of thousands of people read novels on Instagram" (2019)

https://www.fastcompany.com/90392917/the-next-big-reading-pl...>

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21122075>

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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For me at least, the medium matters. If the content is on a device where it is trivial to switch away to something else that could potentially be more "rewarding" to my brain, then every portion of said content must compete with everything else available to me on said device. If the content needs to lay some tedious groundwork to build up to something great, then on certain devices I have to fight through the urge to "flip away" to something else or skip over that part of the content, potentially compromising how I experience the content as a whole.

This is why I recently spent some time to hack up a script to extract news stories into PDFs that I transfer onto an e-reader. I have a subscription to a news site, but I find it's just easier to just use a paywall bypass extension rather than log in when my cookie expires every day or so. I wrote a Python script to pull down the RSS feed for my news site, and with the modules html5_parser, lxml.etree, asyncio, pyppeteer, and slugify, in about 60 lines of code I've got something that displays the headlines one at a time in a console. Based on the headlines, I hit 'y' if I want to read it or 'n' to skip. It uses pyppeteer to fire up a recent build of Chromium, which runs in non-headless (headful?) mode in order to run extensions while still supporting print-to-PDF (patch for that landed July 22nd, hence the recent build to get it). I use xvfb so the Chromium window doesn't pop up on my window manager. Even though I pay for a subscription the news site still displays ads, so I block those with PiHole and the uBlock Origin extension.

I have scripts to detect which /dev file my e-reader gets and to mount it. Then I print-to-PDF the news articles I want to read, saving to the e-reader. On quitting the script, it unmounts. I can grab the e-reader, find a cozy place away from my phones and tablets, and read through the articles without ads, animations, or other distractions, and without the ability to "flip away" to something else on the device I'm using.

Of course all this took me the better part of a Saturday afternoon to get working as I slogged through all the hurdles -- print-to-PDF wasn't working in headful mode, but I needed headful mode to use the paywall-bypass and adblock extensions (solution: found the patch to get print-to-PDF work in headful mode happened in late July). The e-reader doesn't always get the same device file (solution: seek back in /var/log/messages to find the logs for my e-reader and use re package to pull out the device name). I couldn't figure out how to get asynchio to immediately fire off a thread when I hit 'y' on an article and didn't want to wait for a gather() on a bunch of tasks at the end of selecting articles, so I created my own threads and fired up my own event loops for asynchio to use, which is required for pyppeteer. Font was too small on my e-reader (solution: use 'scale': 1.5 in the page.pdf() parameters for pyppeteer). Finally I had to deal with the headful Chromium windows popping up and taking focus (solution: wrapper script to launch Chromium using xvfb-run).

Of course this sort of thing is a lot more labored than just defaulting to clicking links in a web browser on the phone. But by now I feel that the environment is toxic to my ability to concentrate and avoid obnoxious content like animated ads, so it was worth it to me to spend a few hours to figure out how to shift the content onto a device that supports putting real time and attention into content intentionally selected.

I plan on adapting this to pulling down other websites to my e-reader since there's nothing magic about my news site. Anything with RSS could theoretically work; I'd just need to tweak my parsing of the feed depending on its organization. And I'm certain there is an OSS solution that already does what I hacked together but in a smarter or more robust way.

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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post #98
post #79

I’m sympathetic to this argument to some extent… And yet… Just choose to read a book. Drop Facebook. Stop reading Twitter and scrolling through TikTok. I’ve come to believe it’s really that simple. Or don’t. Totally up to you. But the idea that something is being done to you is both seductive and lazy. Take responsibility, act intentionally and don’t worry about it.

> I’ve come to believe it’s really that simple. It's really not though. These apps are addictive! There's a real effort required to drop them and many(most?) people don't have what it takes to kick the habit. I installed TikTok a few months ago to see what all the fuss was about. That shit is ADDICTIVE man. Even to me, a middle aged grump, who doesn't use any social media. I had to uninstall the app a month later as…

It can be both. They can be intentionally and powerfully addictive... and finding a way to develop a resistance to it can still be the most practical/effective option.

Regardless, it's in your best interest to work towards a resistance. These kinds of businesses aren't going to change things until they're forced to, and no matter what that'll take time, and they'll probably just come back in new and exciting ways eventually.

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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post #67

Honestly, it's articles like this that lead me to be so stingy with my attention. I wanted to close the tab a third of the way into the article not because I'm incapable of paying attention, but because the article was wasting my time by shoving the same simple point into my face over and over again with no evidence or interesting implications. I will pay attention to articles with a reasonable density of information…

This really is the laziest take on attention erosion you could possibly make. Why even write it.

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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post #59
post #35

Thinking out loud here...is it possible to use the same patterns for good? Like, infinite scroll, bite-sized chunk UI, etc. that trick our minds into reading a full book?

Thinking about this a bit more, I realized that Duolingo, the language learning app, does exactly this. It breaks up a large task, learning a language, into smaller bite-sized chunks. It rewards users with coins that can be used to do power-ups. It turns learning into a rewarding game. Perhaps this principle can be applied to other domains as well.

Duolingo is very gamified yes, but really the main idea here is spaced repetition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition

My friends that are in med school all use spaced-repetition to cram information into their memory banks, and the app they use (Anki) lets users share flashcard packs. Incidentally, aside from medschool-related packs, there's also packs for learning most languages. I don't think you can ever learn a language through spaced repetition, but it's certainly useful for expanding your vocabulary (learning new words). I started out with Duolingo but switched to Anki because I'm learning a tonal language which doesn't quite sound right with Duolingo's TTS (and the Anki card packs are accompanied with recordings of real speakers).

..and yet I still pop into Duolingo every day though to get my good-boy points :)))

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