I find my own site [0] to be quite fast, since most of it is pretty aggressively cached and its hand-written. Mobile is slightly broken, but still.
A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
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Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#102FWIW, the HN frontpage is 33kB. It's one of the better performing websites I frequent.
It needs to get faster. Soon!
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#103https://sumi.news HTML is ~14KB when transferred with compression. The CSS is ~30KB. I could probably slash that in half if I optimized.
Does the CSS get cached?
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#104The writer is not considering that each asset will be a separate connection or am I missing something?
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#105That's only doable with a text-centric website. I'm currently finishing a photography section for my personal website, and the gallery pages are several hundred kBs in size, while single photo page is almost 1MB in size (provided you load it on a 28" screen; browser will load smaller variants on smaller screens). Most of that weight is the thumbnails (and almost-full-size photo in the latter case). The only JS I have…
Even for media focused websites, this 14KB rule is probably still worth following. Not for the whole web page, obviously. But you should still be aiming to maximize the impact of that first 14KB. Ideally you want to deliver enough for the first layout and paint, so that someone can quickly see the frame of the webpage and then you want to minimize the amount of visual changes caused by subsequent data. Ideally the fi…
Is there number, data, lab test session that proves it's worthwhile ? I sometime feel like these are all KPI detached from conversion but since it can be measured we do measure it.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
1MB per photo is fine. It's the content after all. Many sites today will load 10MB of JS and custom font crap alone, just to show a few paragraphs of text. I don't think the point is the size itself, but it's the content vs. bloat ratio.
Omg just disabling custom fonts in Firefox speeds up the internet so much!
how do you disable fonts? Plugins?
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#107I wonder if anyone has studied the impact of latency on user behavior while considering the impact of user expectations from their typical connection speed. Whenever I see an article about page speed optimization, the assumption is that a user will give up if a page takes too long to load, ans that everyone gives up after X seconds. Usually X is about 7s based on a Nielson article from years and years ago. The thing…
> I wonder if anyone has studied the impact of latency on user behavior while considering the impact of user expectations from their typical connection speed. Whenever I see an article about page speed optimization, the assumption is that a user will give up if a page takes too long to load, ans that everyone gives up after X seconds. Usually X is about 7s based on a Nielson article from years and years ago.
N=1 but I think I am quicker to close a tab with a website that does lazy loading and/or hide stuff for a blink second or three just after showing me the thing I am here for than a tab with a slow loading.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#108I wonder if anyone has studied the impact of latency on user behavior while considering the impact of user expectations from their typical connection speed. Whenever I see an article about page speed optimization, the assumption is that a user will give up if a page takes too long to load, ans that everyone gives up after X seconds. Usually X is about 7s based on a Nielson article from years and years ago. The thing…
I don’t have a citation handy, but this is something that Google has famously studied. They claimed years ago that a tiny increase in the loading time of the Google home page led to a measurable decrease in the number of searches (like, a few percent).
Not everyone is operating “at Google scale”, of course, but in aggregate the effect is real and faster-loading pages have better metrics.
So, most satellite internet users won’t give up just because your page is slow, but some of them will, and even the ones that persevere will likely appreciate a faster page.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
1MB per photo is fine. It's the content after all. Many sites today will load 10MB of JS and custom font crap alone, just to show a few paragraphs of text. I don't think the point is the size itself, but it's the content vs. bloat ratio.
Omg just disabling custom fonts in Firefox speeds up the internet so much!
Thanks for the tip! For others wondering how you can do this, go to Settings -> Fonts -> Advanced, and uncheck "Allow pages to choose their own fonts...".
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish I could do this without breaking all the obnoxious sites that use fonts for icons. Someone should invent an HTML tag for putting images on a page.
A lot of icon frameworks are moving to SVG embedded on the page. Better usability - compared to the lazy fontawesomes out there.
Fontawesome is also available as SVG.