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How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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People voting D or R because that’s their tribe rather than because they want those policies is an example. I know a lot of people who vote without even really reading what’s on the ballot. They just go with whatever option has D next to it. Others do the same but for R. Personally I can’t vote so it’s mostly an interesting phenomenon to observe

I feel like calling that “identity” muddles the term, as identity politics generally refers to categories like race and gender, and maps to feelings on issues such as abortion and the Black Lives Matter movement. To attempt to be helpful, I’d suggest that what you’re referring to is more of an issue of uber partisanship than identity per se.

Yes and uber partisanship is identity. We even call it identifying with your party affiliation.

You can see this in how people say “I am a democrat/republican”. They don’t say vote or belong to or member of, people very explicitly talk about it as an identity and both or all parties encourage that.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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We'll it looks like CNN covered it in may in a dedicated article [1], as well as mentioning it in a number of other articles about related things, such as fentanyl drug busts. So they may not be covering it weekly or daily, but it's not like it's going 5 years between mentions. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/health/drug-overdose-deaths-r...

So it's clearly a story...

Sure. But is it a story that needs covered every single week?

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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CNN has covered it fentanyl deaths increasing increasing. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/health/drug-overdose-deaths-r...

So it's a story then? People in this thread are arguing that it isn't.

No, they are arguing that's it's not a story this week. The first pig->human heart transplant took place earlier this year. Is Fox ignoring it because they haven't covered it this week? Or is it not news because there are no new developments?

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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> 60% of Republicans turn to Fox News for political news and 53% of Democrats turn to CNN It'd be nice to see comparisons of all the news networks, but if you're going to start somewhere it seems like the two which have the majority of viewers seems appropriate.

It's interesting that CNN's website has more than double the website visits as FoxNews's website does. * CNN.com: 524 million * NYtimes.com: 449.9m * FoxNews.com: 263m * WashingtonPost.com: 156.9m * CNBC.com: 144.5m * NYPost.com: 119.6m * Forbes.com: 85.7m * USAToday.com: 85.5m * BusinessInsider.com: 80.7m * NPR.org: 76.6m Source: SimilarWeb.com

Well CNN has quite a viewership internationally - Fox not so much.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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What are good news sources? I guarantee you that for any news source you pick, there are people who will argue that it is crappy and/or biased.

Reuters, the AP, and Bloomberg are my go-to news sources. People who are paid a lot by a few customers to produce accurate news, rather than people who are paid a little by a lot of people to produce an entertainment product.

Bloomberg had that invisible spy chip story.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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post #101

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I feel like calling that “identity” muddles the term, as identity politics generally refers to categories like race and gender, and maps to feelings on issues such as abortion and the Black Lives Matter movement. To attempt to be helpful, I’d suggest that what you’re referring to is more of an issue of uber partisanship than identity per se.

Yes and uber partisanship is identity. We even call it identifying with your party affiliation. You can see this in how people say “I am a democrat/republican”. They don’t say vote or belong to or member of, people very explicitly talk about it as an identity and both or all parties encourage that.

It is, but is distinct from the meaning of “identity politics” and not making that distinction causes confusion.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Combined? Nope. CNN is chronically last. FoxNews is invariably first.

On websites, CNN is 4th (43%), Fox is 8th (40%). https://today.yougov.com/ratings/media/popularity/news-websi... On TV (amongst the big three news channels), Fox is first, then NBC, then CNN. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/124-cable-channels-ranke... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(American_television...

YouGov is an opt-in opinion taker.

Furthermore, opt-in is not a conservative trait hence its inherent bias in favor of those who participate actively to the YouGov data farm.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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CNN covering fentanyl this year: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/18/health/fentanyl-fatal-overdos... https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/16/health/overdose-deaths-record... https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/health/teen-overdose-deaths-w... https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/health/drug-overdose-deaths-r... CNN Covering Immigration this year: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/03/politics/nearly-6000-daily-bo... https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/25/…

Note what i was replying to:

>It should be noted that the four stories that CNN didn't cover aren't actually real stories, but are bordering on conspiracy theories.

jedberg's claim is that those aren't stories, but a conspiracy theories.

CNN seems to disagree with him according to your research.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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So it's clearly a story...

No one is saying it's not a story, they're saying an increased quantity of coverage by an outlet above a certain baseline is not done for the purposes of informing the public, it's done for an emotional response.

jedberg is literally right here in this thread:

>It should be noted that the four stories that CNN didn't cover aren't actually real stories, but are bordering on conspiracy theories.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32514411

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