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For reasons currently unclear to me, installing this seems to cause apt to remove Discord. The following packages have unmet dependencies. libc++1-14 : Depends: libunwind-14 (>= 1:14.0.0) but it is not installable libc++abi1-14 : Depends: libunwind-14 (>= 1:14.0.0) but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Meh. In the end, Microsoft will betray those who trusted it. Long term, better just to pretend it does not exist and never, ever depend on anything with Microsoft name on it.
Millions of businesses run on Microsoft platforms and software developed on/for Microsoft platforms for decades. I think you are painting darker picture than it really is. Or please elaborate a little what you mean by "betraying".
Obviously, I have no idea what exactly will MS do, but after reaching some adoption target, MS will try to extract as much money as it can, because that's what they do.
The other posters in this thread mentioned the debugger is still proprietary. Anyway, I'm not touching this.
Microsoft seems like "a house divided" when it comes to opening .NET. They open source the core language, but have different proprietary dev tools (debugging for one) you need to pay for. https://isdotnetopen.com/ goes over these in more detail, but I'd rather use an ecosystem where I don't have to worry things will be progressively locked down in the future.
The debugger is part of Visual Studio, which is a paid product. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to not publish the source for it.
It's not strictly unreasonable for MS to offer a proprietary debugger, but it is bass-ackwards for the core .NET team to not offer an open source debugger or open standards compliant debugger interface to go with their open source language.
Meh. In the end, Microsoft will betray those who trusted it. Long term, better just to pretend it does not exist and never, ever depend on anything with Microsoft name on it.
I don't keep up with desktop dev, but can I develop a Linux UI using C# and .NET yet?
Check https://avaloniaui.net There's also https://github.com/dotnet/maui from Microsoft but it's not mature yet.
For reasons currently unclear to me, installing this seems to cause apt to remove Discord. The following packages have unmet dependencies. libc++1-14 : Depends: libunwind-14 (>= 1:14.0.0) but it is not installable libc++abi1-14 : Depends: libunwind-14 (>= 1:14.0.0) but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Meh. In the end, Microsoft will betray those who trusted it. Long term, better just to pretend it does not exist and never, ever depend on anything with Microsoft name on it.
Millions of businesses run on Microsoft platforms and software developed on/for Microsoft platforms for decades. I think you are painting darker picture than it really is. Or please elaborate a little what you mean by "betraying".
Earlier quoted context omitted.
.Net has run better on Linux (edit: better than on Windows) machines since at least before the pandemic. I'm a Java dev, but I have also developed on .Net and running modern .Net on Linux is about as simple as it get.
Does visual studio run on linux yet? That's my rubicon for taking .net seriously. It's not just about the runtime, the tooling has to be present as well.
Just thinking from a Ubuntu package level, where libraries live in packages separate from executables, it might be possible to create library packages using the result of ‘dotnet store’. Then executable packages could reference them when running ‘dotnet publish’. [2] That way multiple executable packages could share common libraries.
Replicating the packages of a language package manager (Nugget in this case) into a system package manager (apt in this case) is probably not fun. You will end up with dependency nightmares or one system package per version of Nugget package. So maybe it’s not worth doing.
[1]: https://ubuntu.com/blog/install-dotnet-on-ubuntu
[2]: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/runti...