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Ask HN: Has the quality of Google search declined for anyone else, or just me?

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Re: Ask HN: Has the quality of Google search declined for anyone else, or just me?

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I feel like so much has moved to Discord. That’s great for immediacy and back-and-fourth interaction but it puts all of that information that used to be Google searchable into a black hole of Discord searches.

Could you elaborate a bit more about everything moving to Discord? Is this a thing generally or just a side effects of being in a team that uses discord for work?

Many communities have moved to discord. Where once there might have been a web site on geocities and an irc channel or mail list, now there is just a discord server.

geocities and all those little sites are gone, and what replaced them are a sequence of less-googlable less-preservable things like myspace pages, facebook pages and groups, blogspot/blogger pages, and now discord servers and youtube channels.

There isn't a good platform for individuals and small communities that aren't profitable businesses to host their resources and documents and communications. There are only companies trying to capitalize on people's desire for it, providing something that only purports to provide that platform but really doesn't.

In some ways, there is nothing stopping people from making niche topic sites, but something seems to have changed that makes it just less likely. Maybe there used to be free tiers (was tripod and geocities free?) and now there is only cheap ($5 for a vps), or maybe it's that now you have to do more work yourself setting up a vps vs a premade site host, and the current equivalents of free and fully managed are discord & facebook?

Something is definitely different and somehow the aggregate result is a lot less of the old plethora of niche topic sites. Maybe just that everyone got jobs and has no time to make those sites any more, and now all we have are developers personal blog sites which are really just promo for themselves not really of any value to you or me.

Maybe also the passing of the innocent initial window of time where an individual or small group could run a phpBB on the public net without it getting hacked or overrun by spam or sued or in legal trouble for the member-written content etc, without an income stream to pay moderators and lawyers.

Probably it's a combination of those and even more other factors I'm not thinking of.

Re: Ask HN: Has the quality of Google search declined for anyone else, or just me?

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post #96

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>highly "ideological" in this forum. now you got my attention?

Eh, I'm left wing, that's all, and let me say that I come here to get points of view that are not my own as a way of not existing purely in echo chambers. So I'm not saying this place is bad in any way, in fact it's one of the few places I still come to find links to read and so forth. I barely touch Reddit even, anymore, cause it seems like every subreddit has become captive of one viewpoint or another. Matters pure…

I have no problem with any of what you said. For what that's worth.

Re: Ask HN: Has the quality of Google search declined for anyone else, or just me?

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As well as the fact fewer ppl are maintaining their own websites or blog. The content is now in places that cant be crawled as easily like Instagram, Tiktok and Twitter as well as FB groups.

The loss of blogs is so huge in all sorts of ways. Some random person's travel blog in 2008 would be full of genuinely useful information. That's gone now, replaced by regular people just posting pics to social media and then affiliate-link filled seo-optimized travel sites, half the time written by someone who hasn't even gone to the place but is just copying info and adding sponsored content. The same is true for e…

I used to ridicule geocities and tripod, but I sure miss all those niche sites now.

Re: Ask HN: Has the quality of Google search declined for anyone else, or just me?

#104
Just use more than one search engine. SearX mix results from multiple search engines. Kagi.com (now payed) has "lenses" features that do similar things.

Or just search on other search providers like you.com, qwant.com, startpage.com or DDG.

Re: Ask HN: Has the quality of Google search declined for anyone else, or just me?

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, I'm left wing, that's all, and let me say that I come here to get points of view that are not my own as a way of not existing purely in echo chambers. So I'm not saying this place is bad in any way, in fact it's one of the few places I still come to find links to read and so forth. I barely touch Reddit even, anymore, cause it seems like every subreddit has become captive of one viewpoint or another. Matters pure…

I have no problem with any of what you said. For what that's worth.

Cheers. I actually think that we all agree a lot more than not on most things, but the algorithms make line go up when we're fighting. Line must go up.

Re: Ask HN: Has the quality of Google search declined for anyone else, or just me?

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post #19
post #6

I don't think it has declined It serve its users, you are probably in the niche category that's declining, or rather the casual group is growing in number and as a result your category is being diluted even more, tech stuff usually are old stuff, users prefer new and up to date topics If you are looking for something specific, i suggest trying few tricks to get better specific results: https://betterprogramming.pub/1…

link That’s exactly what gets worse every year, ime.

It's not, it's the same, they haven't removed what they have already indexed

But if you want to loose credibility yet again and loose your investor money on a new search, go ahead, you do you

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