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Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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If you need a truck even 5% of the time it is overall cheapest to just own a truck. Insurance, car payments, and other fixed costs are too high to make a second car worth it, and renting a car is not cheap, not to mention rental rules often mean you can't use the truck as a truck. (I've been looking for a place to rent a truck so I can replace mine, a couple times a year I do something that no rental truck will let m…

No it's cheaper to just get a utility trailer and hook it to your existing vehicle. Even a compact economy car can do just fine towing one. They can carry up to 1500lbs for the smaller ones, and cost less than $1000. You don't have to pay the same road tax every year, or insurance. You don't have maintenance to do on it other than tires and wheel bearings which are all generic and dirt cheap. I've been able to do all…

Most compact cars can tow maybe 1000 pounds. Thats including the trailer weight. Any more, you risk damage to the transmission - they're largely aluminum these days, and not designed to do much more than move the car around.

You have FWD, don't even think about it.

I would be careful taking any recommendation to 'just pull a trailer'. Sure U-Haul will install the hitch. That doesn't mean anything.

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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> hauling yards of soil or towing boats I'm not defending the number of pickups on the road in America but this is an out of touch comment. Some common uses of pickup beds include: * Hauling motorcycles and ATVs including snowmobiles. * Carrying campers. * Carrying home improvement projects such as bags of soil, plants, and raw material such as 8'x2"x4" lumber or 4'x8' plywood. At least in the 2000s a 4x8 sheet of pl…

About 2/3rds of truck owners don't use the bed much at all. https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-siz...

Probably all the trucks I see driving in cities. Come out to the country and see how much trucks get used.

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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what about kubelwagen and schwimmwagen? too soon? :)

The VW Type 2 had a few pickup/flatbed models too. :P

Ah, the type 2 - the genesis of the chicken tax:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

Which is still screwing up the mini truck market in the US to this day :(

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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post #41

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If you need a truck even 5% of the time it is overall cheapest to just own a truck. Insurance, car payments, and other fixed costs are too high to make a second car worth it, and renting a car is not cheap, not to mention rental rules often mean you can't use the truck as a truck. (I've been looking for a place to rent a truck so I can replace mine, a couple times a year I do something that no rental truck will let m…

> renting a car is not cheap U-Haul pickups are $19.95 + mileage. For me personally, I think that'd come to something like $50 for a single hardware store trip, plus inconvenience. So far I haven't had to do that, so I can't vouch for that number to be accurate.

There’s the subject of availability, however. Pickup trucks tend to move quickly on weekends especially. The last time I needed to rent one on a Saturday, for example, it took eight or nine phone calls and driving to three different Home Depots (which rent out trucks on a first-come, first-serve basis). Just getting the truck took half a day.

More planning would’ve helped on my part, but damn, what a hassle.

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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Non-crew cab is almost extinct. I think there are tax/regulatory reasons for this, but it also drives me crazy that so many trucks have beds that are terrible at carrying 8' long items like 2x4s and plywood sheets. At least with a 6' bed the stuff is only sticking out a little past the end of the tailgate.

FWIW, I have a Ridgeline with a 5'4" bed. My 10'6" surfboards are fine with the tailgate down (total flat length just shy of 7') and a red flag on the end. Edit - I would have considered a Santa Cruz or Maverick, had they been available when I bought the RL. But, they're beds are smaller yet and one of the big selling points of the RL was the under-bed trunk, which is massive (about the same as the trunk on my wife's…

The Santa Cruz has a lot of storage under the bed. I was shocked that Ford completely seemed to miss the boat with that in the Maverick.

I finally saw a Santa Cruz in person - the bed is quite a bit higher than I was expecting; then again that's how they get the storage :p

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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I would absolutely love a pickup truck that I can use in SF. All the modern ones are absolutely humongous. I had a Titan and that thing was enormous . Cost me absolute bags of money to offset the carbon. Ultimately, I just want something with a bed that I can strap my bike down and take somewhere to ride. You can't really do that with the Forester I have now.

>strap my bike down and take somewhere to ride. You can't really do that with the Forester you mean like $1500 folding Motorcycle trailer? or even cheaper https://www.uhaul.com/Trailers/Motorcycle-Trailer-Rental/MT/

Haha that's not a bad option. I suppose I wanted some multi utility. I generally dislike trailers but the bike trailer is actually easier to get bikes onto.

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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I'm pretty psyched about the "Buzz", an electric reboot of the famous T1 bus [1]. Not sure how I would actually use this but it seems they're finally getting to grips with what made people love VW's in the past, and translating that to electric vehicles. I've also driven their electric ID.3 and it's just not nearly as exciting. 1: https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html

The US version will apparently be the long wheelbase expensive version, which imo is disappointing but the variants being offered in EU are pretty exciting.

You can thank the chicken tax for killing off true mini truck options https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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About 2/3rds of truck owners don't use the bed much at all. https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-siz...

Probably all the trucks I see driving in cities. Come out to the country and see how much trucks get used.

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Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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I hope this ends up being smaller than the F150. I get the popularity of that form factor, but I simply don't believe that many people are hauling yards of soil or towing boats. 2 Seats + 6 Foot bed seems like a winning combination in practicality, but is quite rare in the US.

Well, an old Scout is a two-door, two row SUV, with a bit of storage in the back and a hatch-back + tail gate. Not a compact pickup (but actually a pretty short length; it qualifies for a small car rate on the Washington State ferries!). International Harvester did make pickup trucks into the mid 70s and they share some bodywork and design elements with Scouts such that you might call it a Scout pickup, but that's no…

The original Scout 80s and 800s had a removable top. International produced both full-length and half-cab hard tops, so you could definitely have your Scout configured as a compact pickup truck.

Re: Volkswagen bringing back Scout brand truck as electric vehicle made in America

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Good. America's midsize truck options are not super great at the moment. Electrification of the midsize segment has even worse prospects. Toyota & GM are way way way behind the curve

They aren't great because they don't have to be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

If more people would lobby their congress critter(s) to repeal the ridiculous chicken tax we might actually see some interesting options in the low end again!

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