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FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by klodolph »

germandiago wrote: post #62
moomoo11 wrote: post #42

Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…

Which takes me at why we have to be rivals (we people in countries), because government are rivals and monopolize trading and resources for themselves? It is very stupid that we passively accept those rules and let them drag us like that into things of this nature. I am really (I am european) pissed off by the fact that someone decided we needed a war with Ukraine when we do not have anything for/against Russia or Uk…

> I really do not accept that, I want to have friends from wherever, go with whoever and do business with whom I deem appropriate without asking permission to anyone.

The reason that systems of economic sanctions exist is to provide alternatives to war. Europe learned some very rough lessons in the 20th century and earlier, leading up to the formation of the EU and before that the formation of the UN. These institutions and other institutions were created by people with memories of large-scale war fresh in their minds.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by simmerup »

_8j50 wrote: post #58
snehk wrote: post #10

I don't have a horse in this race at all, but the annoying part is that the same rules don't get applied across the board. Everything they're accusing TikTok of - from data harvesting to the government having access to said data - is true for western companies as well and that should be the problem. Not the fact that the data is now in the hands of the Chinese but that the data is being collected at all provided to t…

American companies working against national security will be held accountable. A Chinese companh working against american national security will be celebrated at home instead.

A Chinese company would likely be staffed by CCP members and funded by the Chinese government to work against American national security if there was opportunity to do so

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by DocTomoe »

subroutine wrote: post #94
epolanski wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I think it'd be fair (maybe not fine) if China were to allow, say, Facebook to operate in China if Tiktok can operate in the U.S.

They can - if they follow Chinese laws. Which Facebook is unwilling to do.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by modo_mario »

dubswithus wrote: post #38
snehk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They ban them because the companies don't want to follow the same rules Chinese companies have to follow. It's exactly what I'm asking for. Have one set of rules and apply them to everyone. Ban data harvesting completely. Ban it for Facebook, Google and everyone else and then kick out TikTok because they don't follow the rules.

They ban them because they won’t censor factual information and won’t promote disinformation. See how Chinese censorship applies to mRNA vaccine conspiracy theories. A person that debunked them was banned from wechat. Do you see western governments doing this?

>See how Chinese censorship applies to mRNA vaccine conspiracy theories. A person that debunked them was banned from wechat.

Do you happen to have a decent source for that since it seems rather weird given China's gov stance on covid.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by ipatec »

dubswithus wrote: post #46
jsiaajdsdaa wrote: post #2

However putting this data in the hands of FAANG is no problem at all, and totally can't end up in any nefarious hands.

The Chinese government censors posts on social media. It’s nefarious by design. Nothing like that happens with FAANG.

really? where were you during covid?

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by cowtools »

jmfayard wrote: post #90
jpk wrote: post #33

Lots of folks here arguing that the focus on TikTok is unfair, given the data collection practices of domestic corps like Facebook. From a privacy point of view, this argument is well-founded, but I think it's tangential to the argument TFA is making, which is: this data collection done by a foreign government and exploited for surveillance or espionage is a national security risk. I get it. We want corps to stop hoo…

The US government is a foreign government for 96% of the people, not to mention that its own citizens don't control it much.

The USA is a democracy. Arguing otherwise is the pot calling the kettle black.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

snehk wrote: post #10

I don't have a horse in this race at all, but the annoying part is that the same rules don't get applied across the board. Everything they're accusing TikTok of - from data harvesting to the government having access to said data - is true for western companies as well and that should be the problem. Not the fact that the data is now in the hands of the Chinese but that the data is being collected at all provided to t…

That's what the GDPR was designed for, it doesn't solve it but it helps mitigate the problem for individuals.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by jpk »

epolanski wrote: post #67
jpk wrote: post #33

Lots of folks here arguing that the focus on TikTok is unfair, given the data collection practices of domestic corps like Facebook. From a privacy point of view, this argument is well-founded, but I think it's tangential to the argument TFA is making, which is: this data collection done by a foreign government and exploited for surveillance or espionage is a national security risk. I get it. We want corps to stop hoo…

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No, it's not fine, and I said as much.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by sofixa »

soganess wrote: post #83
gambiting wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>Everything they're accusing TikTok of - from data harvesting to the government having access to said data - is true for western companies as well and that should be the problem The thing is, yes Facebook and Google's data collection is horrendous, but TikTok it literally on another level. Quite a good explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fxgi06/comment/fmuk...

From the link: * - Phone hardware (cpu type, number of course, hardware ids, screen dimensions, dpi, memory usage, disk space, etc) - Other apps you have installed (I've even seen some I've deleted show up in their analytics payload - maybe using as cached value?) - Everything network-related (ip, local ip, router mac, your mac, wifi access point name) - Whether or not you're rooted/jailbroken - Some variants of the…

Or any random debugging library like Crashlytics.
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