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Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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I've learned to ignore the industry, or, at least, I'm in the privileged position where I can safely ignore it for the most part, the problem in my case it's that I've started to see more and more the bad (and evil) things our profession and, in the end, our craft is bringing to society and to the world itself. I haven't gotten around to "solve" that just yet.

I do love though to program on my small/little projects.

Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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post #68

I highly recommend doing what I have done most of my career. Get a job at smaller to medium sized non-tech company. Every company, in any industry, has computers. They need you. You don't have to work with a bunch of tech or finance people. You can get a job working with chill people in some other industry with a better culture. When it comes time to negotiate, negotiate HARD. And not just for money, but especially t…

Regarding SaaS, I think programming departments within IT at non-tech companies will get smaller but not disappear. My employer uses around 8 different SaaS platforms that do not interoperate, and this requires a translation layer. We also have automated export/backup routines, and one large database that we use as our system of record.

Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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post #94

Yea I’m pretty much the same way. I love building, but the advent of product management and the commoditization of software work through “agile processes” has pushed me out. I’m not a drone, but that’s all a company views my skill set as. My solution has been to push further and further up the management chain to avoid the things I hate. I’m now about to start a company because of this lack of autonomy and love for b…

Good on you. I wish you all the best with your project. Please nail it! Do it for us struggling programmers.

Good luck man.

Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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I had(have) the same problem but I'm successfully resolving it. In the last 10 days I made more progress than 10 years combined before. Why? Because I realized that the problem is inside of my mind. What is causing me to not finish/doubt my own projects? There are many reasons, each unique to each persons's mind. One must brutaly focus in on the specific reasons and resolve them. The solution that is working for me:…

In true Krishnamurti fashion, you should seek your own methods. Ironically, that may be relying on other people’s methods, but willingly surrendering is different from will-less surrendering.

True. The question becomes: is there the most optimal way of achieving this?

If other's people methods are optimal, then you should take their techniques.

At the same time you ask yourself "Were they doing something where/inneficient? Am I spinning in circles?"

Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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post #43

For me it’s the insane hazing ritual of the tech interview process that makes me want to leave the industry. I’m going through it again now, and honestly am pretty miserable. It has a large negative impact on the rest of my life and my mental health. When I was younger it was manageable, but the fact you have to do this even mid or late career every few years is insane to me. Wish I had gone into literally any other…

Yep it's bullshit. Just don't imagine that the grass is any greener elsewhere. Most professions suck. Work/life balance for doctors is something they read about, lawyers have the highest suicide rates in the country, accountants grind soul crushing busy work, bankers call uppers "tie straighteners" to get them through the day, civil/mechanical engineering chews up the "weak" and cripples the "strong". Academia is a cess pit. Trades get romanticised (as "honest work"), but is its own version of hell (hours, physical toll, social hierarchy, etc etc).

A very few people get lucky and don't deal with this. But from what I've seen, the rule is that work is mostly hell, everywhere.

Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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post #68

I highly recommend doing what I have done most of my career. Get a job at smaller to medium sized non-tech company. Every company, in any industry, has computers. They need you. You don't have to work with a bunch of tech or finance people. You can get a job working with chill people in some other industry with a better culture. When it comes time to negotiate, negotiate HARD. And not just for money, but especially t…

I don't think this is what OP wants.

He hates regular jobs. He wants to work on his inspiring projects, but doesn't know well how to monetize/market them.

Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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I think most people here can. That's why, when people have enough money to retire, they DO retire, and not continue working. Work for most people is trading time and physical and mental health for money. In our profession, we got it better than most, but the underlying principle is still the same. Also, there are definitely better and worse companies. I'm currently in the best job of my life (well paying, fully remot…

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Re: Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can anyone relate?

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I think most people here can. That's why, when people have enough money to retire, they DO retire, and not continue working. Work for most people is trading time and physical and mental health for money. In our profession, we got it better than most, but the underlying principle is still the same. Also, there are definitely better and worse companies. I'm currently in the best job of my life (well paying, fully remot…

I disagree about having it the best healthwise. My back is killing me and I burned out multiple times from stress. I'm not comparing myself to a fireman or something like this, but I would change my job for something more outdoorsy anytime if it paid the same.
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