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Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by hericium »

unmole wrote: post #66
grapeskin wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's odd how many corporations have policies to help their employees escape the laws of places like Texas and Florida, but they're more than happy to relocate their offices to those states for small tax reductions. If they're truly against these policies, gutting those states of thousands of high earning jobs and refusing to build any new offices is the most effective way to do it. The Russian sanctions actually surp…

Relocating to low tax jurisdictions and boosting employee morale both contribute towards creating long term shareholder value. > The Russian sanctions actually surprised me in that a lot of corporations actually pulled out and fast. Companies either pulled out because they were legally obligated (That's what sanctions are) or they wanted to avoid reputational damage to their brands. Again, rational self interest. Cor…

> pulled out (...) to avoid reputational damage to their brands.

French retailer Auchan did not move out of Russia and I have some friends who stopped shopping there and are quite vocal about how noone should shop there.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by asveikau »

thatnerdyguy wrote: post #67
jhawk28 wrote: post #48

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The split of pro/against is really close to 50/50. If you think that the smart people are only on one side or that only one side has "good" arguments, then you are living in a bubble. The argument over abortion was going on before Roe v Wade. Roe v Wade only prevented legislation from finding a solution.

Support for overturning Roe is actually around 30%

This is the thing that our "two sides to every argument" political discourse distorts. Many issues don't poll at 50/50, but perception is often that they are 50/50.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by unmole »

SantalBlush wrote: post #76
unmole wrote: post #66

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Relocating to low tax jurisdictions and boosting employee morale both contribute towards creating long term shareholder value. > The Russian sanctions actually surprised me in that a lot of corporations actually pulled out and fast. Companies either pulled out because they were legally obligated (That's what sanctions are) or they wanted to avoid reputational damage to their brands. Again, rational self interest. Cor…

This is completely made up. Corporations take political positions all the time; it's why they hire lobbyists. Taking political positions is part of business. Your statement really could not be further from the truth.

Again, corporations act in their rational self interest. Sure, industry specific regulation and abortion access are both political. But conflating them is not particularly useful.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by cultofmetatron »

jhawk28 wrote: post #48
tjr225 wrote: post #14

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Google cares about attracting and retaining smart people. Smart people generally respect reproductive rights. So I guess in some ways you are correct, but not in the way your response to the person you are responding to would imply. What is interesting is that I guess the average google employee is in a good enough position in life to either afford birth control, get an abortion if they need one, or simply figure out…

The split of pro/against is really close to 50/50. If you think that the smart people are only on one side or that only one side has "good" arguments, then you are living in a bubble. The argument over abortion was going on before Roe v Wade. Roe v Wade only prevented legislation from finding a solution.

50% of the country are of below average intelligence so yes.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by hedora »

immigrantheart wrote: post #40
hedora wrote: post #15

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You can't avoid polarization by just meshing people together. If anything, it can backfire. Simply a fact of life, that we are different. Our values, philosophies, ethics, religions, perceptions, etc. We are different, and sometimes our differences are irreconcilable. Forced multiculturalism and diversity will backfire. That's just a fact of life. People who are for abortion won't want to be forced to buddy buddy tog…

The point isn't to change neo-nazis minds. The point is to tip state demographics so that the Republican party never holds 40 senate seats or the presidency again.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by gbear605 »

jollybean wrote: post #60
jhawk28 wrote: post #48

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The split of pro/against is really close to 50/50. If you think that the smart people are only on one side or that only one side has "good" arguments, then you are living in a bubble. The argument over abortion was going on before Roe v Wade. Roe v Wade only prevented legislation from finding a solution.

Yes, it's important for people to realize the split is closer to 50/50 nation wide, some people forget that, but in tech, it's definitely not 50/50 and that's relevant as well.

It’s about 70/30 nation wide, and in tech probably about 95/5.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

jhawk28 wrote: post #48
tjr225 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google cares about attracting and retaining smart people. Smart people generally respect reproductive rights. So I guess in some ways you are correct, but not in the way your response to the person you are responding to would imply. What is interesting is that I guess the average google employee is in a good enough position in life to either afford birth control, get an abortion if they need one, or simply figure out…

The split of pro/against is really close to 50/50. If you think that the smart people are only on one side or that only one side has "good" arguments, then you are living in a bubble. The argument over abortion was going on before Roe v Wade. Roe v Wade only prevented legislation from finding a solution.

It's 70/30 and you know it. Americans support abortion in some form or another at 70%. The MAGA base do not, and they want other things like gay marriage, gay sex, and birth control also declared illegal.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by KMag »

bobsil1 wrote: post #90
fumar wrote: post #72

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That is my understanding as well. Austin itself feels like a city plucked out of blue state, but I didn't want to risk being caught in the growing Texan zeal with nowhere to go.

Bad latitude for climate change too

Ssh... I'm still hoping it's affordable to have a vacation house in Minnesota when I retire.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by wonnage »

KMag wrote: post #91
JKCalhoun wrote: post #8

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I assumed it was a decision relating to a woman's reproductive rights. To suggest it is a business decision is sort of debasing?

> I assumed it was a decision relating to a woman's reproductive rights. But, you realize it's largely a question of axioms, right? Two sides are talking past each other because they take their axioms for granted as self-evident. It's simply a question of a woman's reproductive rights if you take it as axiomatic that a fetus isn't a person. I don't take it as axiomatic that personhood begins at conception, but if I d…

It's not "largely a question of axioms" and no amount of confidently assert-while-questioning will make it so
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