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I have a deep understanding of all of the latter. I work in capital markets daily. I do not know anyone serious with my level of experience in the actual markets who thinks bitcoin is the answer. There are several issues with tradFi. Pointing that out is like saying the sun will rise tomorrow. In some cases, people are working on a fix. In other cases, the inefficiency and criminal activity is not ceasing because the…
> Except finance is extremely advanced. Exactly. This is a problem. It can be so advanced that almost nobody understands it. Now take a look at how advanced Bitcoin is: Total circulation will be 21,000,000 coins. It'll be distributed to network nodes when they make blocks, with the amount cut in half every 4 years. first 4 years: 10,500,000 coins next 4 years: 5,250,000 coins next 4 years: 2,625,000 coins next 4 year…
Bitcoin Is a Hideous Monstrosity Made Out of Computers and Greed
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>Sorry this is all too vague. How do you define "broken" and what does this post-debt-driven economy look like? Look up % of world population living in hyperinlationary environments to get your answer. The post-debt driven economy is one where a handful of people cannot devalue your labor with a press of a button. > Whats the use case here exactly? Freedom from corrupt governments that debase your currency into obliv…
>Look up % of world population living in hyperinlationary environments to get your answer. The post-debt driven economy is one where a handful of people cannot devalue your labor with a press of a button. Ok so lets say the production costs increases and drives inflation. How does bitcoin make my life easier in this scenario?
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I have a deep understanding of all of the latter. I work in capital markets daily. I do not know anyone serious with my level of experience in the actual markets who thinks bitcoin is the answer. There are several issues with tradFi. Pointing that out is like saying the sun will rise tomorrow. In some cases, people are working on a fix. In other cases, the inefficiency and criminal activity is not ceasing because the…
> For simple terms since you’re obviously not in the field, ask yourself where is money created? If you say central banks, go back to Econ 101 and study better this time. The Fed itself directly created 8T USD since 2009 (QE). Some of it in the past two years even went straight to consumer's pockets via the Treasury in the form of stimmies and forgivable PPP loans (helicopter money/MMT). https://www.federalreserve.go…
Basically you did answer where the M2 increase is coming from but you have no idea what is the difference between M2 and real money. If you’re following the idiots on finance twitter tweeting daily about velocity of money charts, stop, pick up a modern macro textbook and read in detail.
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I have a deep understanding of all of the latter. I work in capital markets daily. I do not know anyone serious with my level of experience in the actual markets who thinks bitcoin is the answer. There are several issues with tradFi. Pointing that out is like saying the sun will rise tomorrow. In some cases, people are working on a fix. In other cases, the inefficiency and criminal activity is not ceasing because the…
> There is no wealth distribution in a hard money paradigm that makes sense. Care to explain how one can come to this claim based on first principles? Maybe I'm misinterpreting this sentence of yours. I read it as: a hard money paradigm will inevitably lead to a very undesirable wealth distribuation (Gini coefficient --> 1) and there's no way to fix/prevent this other than moving from hard money to soft money. I'd re…
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There is a technological foundation that gets lost between all the money games that are being played on top of it and gets ignored or dismissed as a result, so you get opinions like "Bitcoin Is A Hideous Monstrosity Made Out Of Computers And Greed That Must Be Destroyed Before It Devours The World". There is no room for discussion here, and it's depressing to see how many people want to throw the baby out with the ba…
> The blockchain, smart contracts and NFTs are amazing technologies that could do wonders for mankind Like what? I'm seriously. (Not trolling, not trying to feed fires.) To me the whole thing seems bad, period, but I'm willing to entertain the idea that I'm wrong. FWIW, I think "crypto" et. al. (in quotes because to me the term means "cryptography") is pointless because the Earth is small relative to the speed of lig…
Enter the blockchain, smart contracts and all kind of buzzwords, and decentralization is finally starting to become a possibility. This blows wide open a whole lot of assumptions we make about our daily lives, so to avoid going into the political, economical, philosophical and moral aspects of what decentralization entails I'll stick to the one thing we know best: the internet.
The web as we know it today is pretty much FUBAR. You can see it on HN too, with plenty of news about websites screwing over their customers due to profit gouging, negligence, scaling/management issues... you name it. You have to trust these centralized websites that are completely closed off from everything else, and the website owner is completely in control of everything on its servers. You go to Google in order to do Google stuff the way that Google intends you to do and you have no choice on the matter. You liked that feature? Too bad, now it's gone because our internal tests found out that by removing it our conversion rate raised by 0.001%. And here, enjoy your new bloated, overdesigned UI. No, you can't switch to the old one. Also, your data is actually theirs', so they can just decide that they don't like you and just outright delete it, or sell it, or god knows what else. What do you mean you want to migrate somewhere else? Are you insane?? ...You get it. This applies to essentially every single website that you use, big and small. The data resides on the website's servers, whose security and management is up to the website's owner, and that's just how things work. In the worst case scenario websites could even act maliciously, as it happened when reddit's /u/spez abused its admin powers to change the content of comments that criticized him. All of this is unavoidable because of centralization, and hey, you agreed to the ToS after all.
That is not the case with Web3, because your data and your activity resides on the blockchain. Dapps access and interact with that data in a decentralized manner, and the resulting "status" of your account and the dapps themselves are the verifiable, unchangeable result of a sequence of actions that users performed on the blockchain through smart contracts. An example of what that means is that if for any reason a dapp you use decides to shut down their website for whatever reason, people would still be able to access and use that dapp by simply hosting the (usually open source) interface on another server and interact with the smart contract as per usual; the data and activity is still there on the blockchain, no one can seize or alter it and it will stay that way forever. You could also build your own website instead of using the official one. Also, dapps can use any other dapps' data with no restriction. To put this in perspective, the current web doesn't let you do that: you could use the provider's APIs, IF they're provided, but even then you would be subject to the limitations imposed, not to mention the provider has to actually stay up and let you access their APIs.
Granted, there is still some degree of trust involved as you could interact with a malicious smart contract, but it's still a _massive_ improvement over what we have now.
Another really cool aspect which makes it all worth it for me is the fact that you can use your account on any dapp without having to register to it with an arbitrary registration system you could be locked out of anytime: your account is just your wallet's keys, and you use those to sign your activity. Simple and effective.
Mind you, this is just the tip of the iceberg and something I wrote off the top of my head. There's a lot of cool stuff to be excited about that doesn't necessary involve money, but of course those take a lot more time and effort to be developed compared to marketing a get rich quick scheme, and certainly generate far less headlines.
We'll see how this pans out in a couple of years, but I'd certainly be gutted to see this die off because of human greed.
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But whether that is a bad thing definitely is up for debate. Bitcoin mining is a buyer of last resort for stranded renewable energy. It also incentivises renewable energy capture. Energy isn't fungible, it can't be magically teleported to where it can be used. Energy consumption in itself isn't something to be ashamed of or avoided. Personally I think mining Bitcoin with fossil fuels is wrong, but trying to tell peop…
Yes, I keep hearing that it's a buyer of last resort. Is there any info on how true that it? What % of mining is done with last resort energy, and what % is just simply creating more demand. I would guess that most is increasing demand.
But I would suspect probably not a lot right now. There is some mining that's efficiently burning off nat gas that otherwise would have been inefficiently flared or vented, which is net positive from a GHG emissions perspective, but that's an outlier. Realistically, I suspect there's such a high profit margin that hunting for stranded energy isn't the primary goal right now. Getting cheap ASICs is.
This is why I'm a big proponent of increasing mining regulation. I want to see miners heavily taxed for using carbon sourced electricity and pushed out to the fringes of electricity production. We'll probably need to use regulation to force the industry to actually be the consumer of last resort. Right now, there's just too much low hanging fruit for miners to put in that work voluntarily.
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Is this what indoctrination looks like?
What does dollar indoctrination look like? Like asking a fish what water is I suppose. It's all we've known.
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I have a deep understanding of all of the latter. I work in capital markets daily. I do not know anyone serious with my level of experience in the actual markets who thinks bitcoin is the answer. There are several issues with tradFi. Pointing that out is like saying the sun will rise tomorrow. In some cases, people are working on a fix. In other cases, the inefficiency and criminal activity is not ceasing because the…
Just for your interest, you just called a few recipients of the Nobel Prize in Economics idiots.
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I have a deep understanding of all of the latter. I work in capital markets daily. I do not know anyone serious with my level of experience in the actual markets who thinks bitcoin is the answer. There are several issues with tradFi. Pointing that out is like saying the sun will rise tomorrow. In some cases, people are working on a fix. In other cases, the inefficiency and criminal activity is not ceasing because the…
What do you think of the endogenous money theory that is being promoted from time to time?
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Where can I read their points of view? Can you provide some links by any chance?
Safedean Ammous isn't 100 % studied economist. But according to his CV he studied at London School of Economics, also gave economics lectures and was/is assistant professor of economics at Lebanese American University (Beirut). [1] I'd recommend listening to his interview with Lex Fridman. [2] [1] https://capitalism.columbia.edu/files/ccs/person/cv/2015/amm... [2] https://lexfridman.com/saifedean-ammous/
People’s appearance on Lex Fridman shouldn’t be used as an indicator of anything. He interviews very widely and he does it well. But he isn’t very selective about guests.