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Deno raises $21M

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Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by flohofwoe »

vlunkr wrote: post #69

This question is going to make me sound like a jerk, but why do you want to write your back-end in JS? Deno looks like a great improvement over node.js, but I don't feel compelled to use it. It seems like people jumped to node based on some performance promises that didn't really pay off (IMO). And since then, we have newer options like Rust, Go, and Elixir as performant back-end options, and even older choices like…

I may be the odd one out, but for me node.js (and hopefully in the future Deno) isn't about the backend, but instead it's a pretty nice scripting environment for tooling and automation. I've been using mainly Python for this in the past, but got burned out quite a bit by the python2=>3 transition.

(but still: don't underestimate the raw performance of V8, for many things it's definitely good enough)

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by marcofatica »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #97

I'm not deep in Node world but I use it and see it being used, who is using Deno out there? Have there been some notable/major ship jumps? Or is it not that kind of situation (perception from when it came on the scene is that's exactly what it is, constantly trying to woo Node devs over). And also there's alot of recognizable brand competition out there from things like Cloudflare, Netlify (but they're an investor in…

Slack is the biggest I know of https://deno.com/blog/slack

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by wperron »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #97

I'm not deep in Node world but I use it and see it being used, who is using Deno out there? Have there been some notable/major ship jumps? Or is it not that kind of situation (perception from when it came on the scene is that's exactly what it is, constantly trying to woo Node devs over). And also there's alot of recognizable brand competition out there from things like Cloudflare, Netlify (but they're an investor in…

Netlify, Supabase and Slack whitelabelling Deno Deploy for starters, I'm sure there are others out there self-hosting as well

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by mattlondon »

mmastrac wrote: post #59
zackangelo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprised this is the case because I use their Rust v8 bindings on an ARM laptop almost every day. Have you tried building it from source?

It was a few years back and I was mainly playing with a few early projects. I was very productive, but wanted to target my Raspberry Pi and it just wasn't there. I ended up going 100% rust instead.

There are still no RPi builds as far as I am aware, which is a shame as there are now Mac silicon builds so not sure what the hold up is. I do wonder if there are.more Raspberry Pi's out there than M1/M2 Macs :)

Someone is doing the builds here - been using them and seem ok: https://github.com/LukeChannings/deno-arm64

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by jacobr »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #97

I'm not deep in Node world but I use it and see it being used, who is using Deno out there? Have there been some notable/major ship jumps? Or is it not that kind of situation (perception from when it came on the scene is that's exactly what it is, constantly trying to woo Node devs over). And also there's alot of recognizable brand competition out there from things like Cloudflare, Netlify (but they're an investor in…

From my horizon the most significant adoption has been Netlify edge functions. So not exactly ship jumping, but adjacent and growing spaces.

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by wperron »

the_gipsy wrote: post #74
jitl wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is already a system for building a NPM node package from a Deno package, called dnt (deno to node). It's maintained by some Deno team members. Here's a blog post they wrote about porting "Oak" (a deno HTTP server framework) to Node: https://deno.com/blog/dnt-oak The nice thing about Deno conceptually, is that it's much more similar to the browser platform than node is. It uses ES6 only, has things like `fetch`…

What about using an npm package in deno?

Has been possible (and surprinsingly easy) for a while through CDNs like skypack or esm.sh

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by efdee »

brtkdotse wrote: post #45
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #15

> Early in cloud computing, virtual machines were the compute abstraction […] This is funny to me because serverless sounds to me like the return of PHP (etc) shared hosting. What's old is new again?

It’s amusing to see a whole generation of senior developers (“senior” as in 5+ years of experience) that haven’t experienced web development without React[0] and who proceed to reinvent PHP/ASP.NET/RoR. [0] Used here as shorthand for “modern js driven development”

We could really do without this kind of snark here. Not only is it condescending, but it's also just plain wrong, either on purpose or due to the writer not being familiar with the subject at hand.

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by IshKebab »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #97

I'm not deep in Node world but I use it and see it being used, who is using Deno out there? Have there been some notable/major ship jumps? Or is it not that kind of situation (perception from when it came on the scene is that's exactly what it is, constantly trying to woo Node devs over). And also there's alot of recognizable brand competition out there from things like Cloudflare, Netlify (but they're an investor in…

I think it's still pretty early days but it's clearly far superior to Node so I think we'll see more and more people use it.

The biggest barrier is the library ecosystem. JS's insane packaging history means a lot of NPM libraries don't work seamlessly with Deno even if they don't use Node APIs.

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Post by markandrewj »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #97

I'm not deep in Node world but I use it and see it being used, who is using Deno out there? Have there been some notable/major ship jumps? Or is it not that kind of situation (perception from when it came on the scene is that's exactly what it is, constantly trying to woo Node devs over). And also there's alot of recognizable brand competition out there from things like Cloudflare, Netlify (but they're an investor in…

I imagine you are already aware, but the creator of Node, Ryan Dahl, is also the creator for Deno. He is trying to create a new language which integrates what he learned from building Node.
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