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Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#101
post #8

This is not good news. It's actually changed from being free to costing $10/month. The productivity benefits are worth more than $10/month easily, but somehow I still don't want to pay for it... maybe it's because they're using public domain code to train the model.

If it were trained with public domain code, I’d feel a lot better. But it’s done with code with all sorts of restrictive licenses. The only thing that will change that is new laws (e.g. fair use de-exemptions for ML products)

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#102
post #25

Time for programmers to get the same rights as musicians and composers. That's clearly a remix of the work of others

They already do, no? Problem is this magical solution requires ignoring all copyright law. We can't prove it but when someone does, it'll be a legal shitshow.

It doesn’t require ignoring copyright law. It’s fair use. Which is a bad thing. We need new laws for this stuff.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#103
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever thought that hobbyists exists outside US and Europe?

I live in Iran, one of the worst economics of the world. 10$ is 4 meals and it's still worth it imho.

Iran's economy is still doing good comparing to many countries of the world.

Africa is saying hello

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#104

I've been using Copilot for a few months and... Yeah, it makes mistakes, sometimes it shows you i.e. the most common way to do something, even if that way has a bug in it. Yes, sometimes it writes a complete blunder. And yes again, sometimes there are very subtle logical mistakes in the code it proposes. But overall? It's been great ! Definitely worth the 10 bucks a month (especially with a developer salary). :insert…

100%

The thing ive most enjoyed is that it forces me to write out what I want to do in english before getting stuck in the weeds of how the code ought to work.

I've found if I explain the whole program ahead of time (the other day I wrote some python that converted the local time to display on a 13x13 grid of LEDs) co-pilot can write 90% of the code without me, just translating my explanation into python.

I thinking knowing how to express yourself to AI will be a unique skillset akin to being "good at googling"

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#105
post #61
post #10

My mind is blown by the people saying $10/month is too much. $10 a month for this is an unbelievably good deal! If you value your time, this is a ridiculously good deal.

Eh. I might use it if my employer obtained it for me, but I'm not gonna go out of my way to pay $10 to Microsoft for it. I'm also still skeptical about the legal aspects of it. Microsoft says that training the model is fair use. Good for them, but that's not applicable to me in any way.

Honestly it puts the legal burden on YOU. Think of Github Copilot like a fancy pants search engine, it mixes and matches stuff to your query, and doesn't even tell where it copied it from! Indexing search results, fair use. Using that code in YOUR codebase without a license :)

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#106
post #36
post #10

My mind is blown by the people saying $10/month is too much. $10 a month for this is an unbelievably good deal! If you value your time, this is a ridiculously good deal.

Copolilot very rarely gives me relevant results, I definitely would not pay for it.

you're holding the phone wrong :P

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#107

I've been using Copilot for a few months and... Yeah, it makes mistakes, sometimes it shows you i.e. the most common way to do something, even if that way has a bug in it. Yes, sometimes it writes a complete blunder. And yes again, sometimes there are very subtle logical mistakes in the code it proposes. But overall? It's been great ! Definitely worth the 10 bucks a month (especially with a developer salary). :insert…

> It's excellent for quickly writing slightly repetitive test cases; Ever considered parameterization?

Then you have harder to reason about test that can fail in its complex parameter matrix. I think it's okay for test to be a little bit repetitive

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#108
post #62
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they can replace you with copilot and an unexperienced cheaper user.

Honestly, that’s the hope. Putting together well-solved combinations of computer functionality ought to become less-skilled work as technology progresses.

That's been the objective of programming languages for 50 years. It hasn't happened yet, because the essential complexity of programming problems isn't in writing the code.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#109

I've been using Copilot for a few months and... Yeah, it makes mistakes, sometimes it shows you i.e. the most common way to do something, even if that way has a bug in it. Yes, sometimes it writes a complete blunder. And yes again, sometimes there are very subtle logical mistakes in the code it proposes. But overall? It's been great ! Definitely worth the 10 bucks a month (especially with a developer salary). :insert…

100% The thing ive most enjoyed is that it forces me to write out what I want to do in english before getting stuck in the weeds of how the code ought to work. I've found if I explain the whole program ahead of time (the other day I wrote some python that converted the local time to display on a 13x13 grid of LEDs) co-pilot can write 90% of the code without me, just translating my explanation into python. I thinking…

> co-pilot can write 90% of the code without me, just translating my explanation into python.

I fear copilot may encourage these type of pseudo-code comments. The most valuable thing the AI doesn't know is WHY the code should do what it does.

Months later, we'll get to debug code that "nobody" wrote and find no hints of why it should behave that way, only comments stating what the code also says.

Seems we're replacing programming for reverse engineering generated code.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#110

Anyone is interested in starting to work on an open source alternative? I have a few terabytes of GitHub repository archives, a bit of experience and an non-profit umbrella (goal is AI Safety).

pray tell, what about co-pilot is dangerous?
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