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Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#101

Post by em-bee »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #72
bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

Welp, it's open source, you've had 10 years to contribute a fix. If you're going to downvote my comment, please explain in a subsequent comment why it's unreasonable to expect that if this is such an egregious bug, someone would've contributed a fix for it? Or at least, a reproducible test case? Given they haven't, it's either not that egregious, or the people complaining are people who feel entitled to take without…

it looks like people are misreading your comment. at least i did, at first. i thought you were piling on, addressing the maintainer, but on closer reading i realized that you were addressing the parent poster.

for what it's worth, i think you are absolutely right.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#102

Post by em-bee »

my80thaccount wrote: post #68
bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

This is a really bad look, but I would think that if opsec is important to you, you won't have your proxy configuration in application level settings of a Python app. I think the people who would be concerned about this use system wide VPNs or seed boxes.

a system wide vpn doesn't always work. in some countries there are apps/websites that only work if they are accessed locally because they block access from outside.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#104

Post by em-bee »

sph wrote: post #71
wildmanx wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For you and everybody else complaining about this aspect: This is open source software. GPL licensed. It's provided as-is. You are free to use it and express what you think about it, and the maintainers are equally free to do with your opinion whatever they like, which includes ignoring it. Clearly, none of the maintainers found this to be a problem. They likely don't need proxy settings for themselves. And they appa…

I hate this philosophy of yours with all my might. When you put something out there, you should strive to do right by your users. It is fine if you do not have time to fix a particular bug, but communication and asking for help should then be your priorities as maintainer. If 10 years of mostly silence on your part have passed, IMHO you have failed to be an effective open source maintainer. I understand that open sou…

(apologies, this might be a bit snarky)

i hate this philosophy of yours with all my might. (ok, not really, but i do dislike it)

when i put something out there, i do it to share what i build for myself and for my own needs. i may be asking for help in general, but i won't ask for help for every specific issue unless that issue is a priority for my self and i can't fix it. time is to short to worry about every single low priority problem.

and how dare you judge someone elses effectiveness as a maintainer!

that, my friend, is quite an insult. you have no idea how effective they are. you don't live their life. you don't know what other responsibilities they have. what's next? asking that they commit a minimum number of hours each week for the project? demanding that they respond to any request within a day?

users should be free to be critical of it

absolutely not. you can say: "unfortunately, i have this problem, so i can't use this, i am going to go use something else". but that's about it.

criticism is the bane of our society. criticism hurts peoples feelings. criticism causes burnout. FOSS maintainers are volunteers and absolutely do not deserve that kind of criticism for just developing software. (that doesn't make them above any criticism. if they are rude or mean to their users, then that may well be criticized. but not if they ignore a problem or are unresponsive. they may well have other things in their life that are more important than to care about your software issue) (and if the developer is paid, direct any criticism at the company, but don't beat up the employee who may not have the freedom to choose what issues to work on)

Being open source doesn't mean nobody should dare criticise you

if you didn't pay for it, it means exactly that.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#105

Post by em-bee »

ryankrage77 wrote: post #103
rvz wrote: post #7

What is the problem with Transmission and what does Deluge (poor name) do better?

>(poor name) Why do you think that? Deluge is a synonym for torrent.

that's interesting. that word is so rarely used that i didn't make the connection. it's brilliant.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#106

Post by iqkznnft »

27182818284 wrote: post #29
forlorn wrote: post #26

Nothing against it but I always wonder what leads to posting a link to a website out of the blue sky. No news, no releases, just a link to a frontpage.

I'm with you. I was actually expecting a message about it being hacked or something similar to when Transmission had malware added to a version of it.

Transmission had malware? Link?

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#107

Post by executesorder66 »

pkhamre wrote: post #18

Is torrents still a thing? Genuinely curious. It looks like a cool piece of software with lots of nice features, but I mean.. I don't need, as far as I know, a client-server stack for downloading stuff.

When did they ever stop being a thing?

Have you found a service that can provide you with any movie/series/music/game ever made? Please share with everyone else, since the popular services like Netflix/Spotify/Steam don't really measure up to that standard.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#108

Post by notRobot »

forgotpwd16 wrote: post #88
wildmanx wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. This is GPL software made by people in their free time, for free. Apparently, the intersection of "people who want a Windows release", "people who have the skill to do it" and "people who want to do it for free" is empty. If you belong to all 3 groups, then please go ahead and provide a Windows release. If you don't then…

>then please go ahead and provide a Windows release People do provide unofficial Windows builds in the forums.

TIL, thank you!

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#109

Post by EdwardDiego »

em-bee wrote: post #101
EdwardDiego wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welp, it's open source, you've had 10 years to contribute a fix. If you're going to downvote my comment, please explain in a subsequent comment why it's unreasonable to expect that if this is such an egregious bug, someone would've contributed a fix for it? Or at least, a reproducible test case? Given they haven't, it's either not that egregious, or the people complaining are people who feel entitled to take without…

it looks like people are misreading your comment. at least i did, at first. i thought you were piling on, addressing the maintainer, but on closer reading i realized that you were addressing the parent poster. for what it's worth, i think you are absolutely right.

Well cheers, makes me think you contribute to FOSS too :)

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#110

Post by erdeibit »

iqkznnft wrote: post #106
27182818284 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with you. I was actually expecting a message about it being hacked or something similar to when Transmission had malware added to a version of it.

Transmission had malware? Link?

Yes, several times

https://blog.malwarebytes.com/threat-analysis/2016/09/transm...

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