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Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by npteljes »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #62
ysleepy wrote: post #15

The one thing that sours the entire experience for me is that songs take like 5-15s to start playing when selecting one that isn't super popular. This happens on my ipad, mac, android phone. It feels like some server is spinning up a hard drive to stream it. Apart from that, why the hell is the title and artist only shown in one line that starts scolling instead of showing multiple lines if it doesn't fit, at least i…

These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. These trillion dollar corporations can't beat literally decades old technology. The only reason these little services even exist in the first place is to satisfy the whims of copyright monopolists. How many more steps backwards must this industry take before they're satisfied?

We need to distinguish ability and willingness. And nobody will ever be satisfied, it's a constant struggle for control, from all sides. For what they cost, I think the streaming services in general offer a good deal. Not that I'm overly satisfied with any of them.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by papito »

plonk wrote: post #5

I've never seen a search box that couldn't actually handle input before, but Apple Music made it. If I click in the search box and start typing, the box will lose focus at some random time and all my next keystrokes will count as play commands, usually pausing the music. If I come back to the search box, it happens again. I know "text boxes" are cutting-edge technology that's barely 3 seconds old and developers are s…

Well, the driverless car software will be much more solid. We hope?

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by ryandrake »

josephg wrote: post #78
matheusmoreira wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. These trillion dollar corporations can't beat literally decades old technology. The only reason these little services even exist in the first place is to satisfy the whims of copyright monopolists. How many more steps backwards must this industry take before they're satisfied?

I’ve been seriously considering going back to owning a big library of mp3s. I love Spotify for its suggestions - well, when it’s not just playing the same 8 songs on repeat. And I love having my music available on all my devices. But the experience of playing songs feels like it’s taken a big step backwards into some sort of weird corporate happy land. The fact I we still can’t remove podcasts from Spotify is ridicul…

> I’ve been seriously considering going back to owning a big library of mp3s.

I never left! Every once in a while I go and try Streaming again to see if they have gotten their shit together, and they still haven't. My hand-curated collection of MP3s, hand-ripped by me using the quality settings I like, carefully stored in a directory structure I understand, with filenames that make sense to me, meticulously tagged with the right metadata, gives me everything I need for music listening, and it doesn't require the Internet or a subscription to play. With hard drive sizes today, the cost of storage for a library of every music I would ever want to listen to is a rounding error. I don't care about discovery and engagement and royalty costs and all those metrics streaming companies optimize for.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

#104

Post by matheusmoreira »

dash2 wrote: post #81
matheusmoreira wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. These trillion dollar corporations can't beat literally decades old technology. The only reason these little services even exist in the first place is to satisfy the whims of copyright monopolists. How many more steps backwards must this industry take before they're satisfied?

>These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. You are sitting in a chair in the sky . I can play any music I want right now for a £10/month fee. In the 90s I was buying CDs with five good songs and five filler for £15. In the 2000s I was finding stuff that I could pirate, downloading it, and playing it on my beige desktop computer because there was no such thing as a smartphone.

> I can play any music I want right now for a £10/month fee.

Any music? Nope. Maybe the popular stuff that plays on the radio.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by wintermutestwin »

I am fully bought in to the Apple ecosystem, but Apple Music is the poison pill that has me questioning this new prison I have chosen.

The iOS app wastes three out of five buttons at the bottom that I can't change to something useful: "Listen Now" "Browse" "Radio" are all weak "discovery" tools that are probably more about label kickbacks than actually helping me find new music that I like.

And really, I don't need your discovery Apple - what I need is better library discovery/organization tools because I have a massive library which is unwieldy in your crap apps.

The album-centric focus is a huge PitA due to singles. Give me an Artist playlist that doesn't take up a precious playlist slot.

Maybe this isn't entirely Apple's fault, but when I see greyed out songs or albums that were once there that aren't anymore, I feel pushed to stop giving these scumbag labels my cash through your service.

I left out the bugs, but I feel that the quality of their flagship services product makes them look like a dying company, not a premium brand worth 2.5t$

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

#108

Post by _gabe_ »

thefz wrote: post #83

I won't touch Apple* anything with a stick, but that had me laughing: Here are some suggestions for Apple to improve Apple Music on macOS: Fix the bugs, and make navigation fast! Like programmers weave a magic wand around and bugs magically fix themselves. Why can't you make navigation fast ?

> Like programmers weave a magic wand around and bugs magically fix themselves. Why can't you make navigation fast?

While it's true that these are hard things to do, I think the author may be getting at a deeper issue here. For some reason the software world of today thinks delivering more crappy half baked features is more important than making usable bug free features, or even just fixing what already exists. I don't know where this idea came from, but it's a very annoying ideology.

The Unity game engine is another big corporation that does this. They released that demo awhile ago showing off how they can create realistic looking game scenes (the chess scene demo). I don't understand why they think that appeals to anyone. I'm pretty sure like 90% of people use Unity to make 2D games or low poly 3D games. And instead of fixing all their broken "features" they continue adding "features" nobody cares about or asked for.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by tokamak-teapot »

Decabytes wrote: post #98

I tried out Apple Music for the first time because I got a trial for it. I was shocked with how slow and unresponsive the interface is. Not only that songs had a noticeable delay between when they were clicked and when they actually started playing

To be fair, Spotify is doing something pretty magical here. I can’t figure out how they usually start tracks playing within what feels like microseconds after I choose them.

Pre caching? Yes but sometimes I don’t see how it could have reasonably guessed that I might play that particular song, like when I start typing to search and then stab at an entry in the results.

Surely they also want to be doing some buffering, so if they are pre caching a tiny bit of songs then they need to load the next piece of data quickly before I’ve heard the first part, but there is no obvious issue where this fails, as I might expect to hear.

Also when I seek in a song it’s almost always instant. They have the whole song quickly enough for the whole thing to be seekable?

If they were just relying on great latency and bandwidth then there should be a lot more issues with the audio pausing or dropping out.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by ghaff »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #104
dash2 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. You are sitting in a chair in the sky . I can play any music I want right now for a £10/month fee. In the 90s I was buying CDs with five good songs and five filler for £15. In the 2000s I was finding stuff that I could pirate, downloading it, and playing it on my beige desktop computer because there was no such thing as a smartphone.

> I can play any music I want right now for a £10/month fee. Any music? Nope. Maybe the popular stuff that plays on the radio.

Oh please. And in the "old days" you couldn't buy just any random indie music in a record store either. Yes, "any" music is obviously an exaggeration for a mainstream music streaming service. I'm guessing I own a few things that aren't on Apple Music or Spotify. But the vast vast majority of music most people in the West listen to is on the streaming services. It certainly isn't just Top 40.
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