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> That being said, is there any counterpoint to this view? 1. A national dealership network is at minimum, a soft-guarantee that your car can be maintained/recalled/fixed without you jumping through hoops. Unfortunately, that soft-guarantee is saddled with all the other baggage of car dealerships. Pushy sales-people, extended warranties, predatory loans, etc. 2. It forces you to buy local, so not all the money flows…
Looking at Detroit.. I don’t think a lot of money is flowing there.
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That being said, is there any counterpoint to this view? 1. A national dealership network is at minimum, a soft-guarantee that your car can be maintained/recalled/fixed without you jumping through hoops. Unfortunately, that soft-guarantee is saddled with all the other baggage of car dealerships. Pushy sales-people, extended warranties, predatory loans, etc. 2. It forces you to buy local, so not all the money flows…
Looking at Detroit.. I don’t think a lot of money is flowing there.
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It's a big purchase, so you'd want to at least test it out in person?
No dealerships doesn't mean no test drives. Tesla offers them today.
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Local profit? That is, in many towns, my understanding is that the local dealerships are relatively well off. Which implies that a bit more of the money is kept local to where the cars are being sold. I'm guessing this is less true today than in years past.
In many small to medium size towns if you find the family who owns the local ($BRANDNAME) dealership they are often among the wealthiest people in the entire county. edit: I can see from the two other comments here alongside mine that this is a common observation.
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#105All credit goes to Tesla.
Buying a car with option to customize, same fair price everyone pays and ordering online without talking to anyone is the way to go!!!
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I think you’re drastically underestimating how immensely popular the Ford F-150 is. Every single person who wants a truck knows about the F-150 and I’d wager the vast majority who may purchase an EV know about the F-150 Lightning or will find out as they start hitting the streets and they see them in parking lots and at stoplights.
But what percentage of those F-150 owners know there is an EV version? Or put another way, how many of them can you convert to an EV version with effective advertising?
There are a lot of F150s though, and the Lightning’s design is distinct enough that it advertises itself even with a tiny fraction of owners actually converting.
Also, the ridiculous things people are going to try towing with that much torque will win some over as well.
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Ok...this isn't that hard. If someone says you may light on fire tomorrow. You're probably going to ask for a little bit of an explanation.
No, it's not that hard. He could have used the word "necessarily" after "not", but the meaning was still clear.
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#108A lot has been said about the dealership model in the last few years, and the almost universal consensus is that it is an unnecessary and predatory industry and all auto makers should just sell cars directly like Tesla does. That being said, is there any counterpoint to this view? Are there any benefits that dealerships offer today over direct sales? What would we lose if we got rid of every dealership? If there is t…
Local profit? That is, in many towns, my understanding is that the local dealerships are relatively well off. Which implies that a bit more of the money is kept local to where the cars are being sold. I'm guessing this is less true today than in years past.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Local profit? That is, in many towns, my understanding is that the local dealerships are relatively well off. Which implies that a bit more of the money is kept local to where the cars are being sold. I'm guessing this is less true today than in years past.
The other side of that is the dealership owner is often the richest person in a small town and has extremely outsized impact on local politics.
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#110Tesla may not be the future of EVs, but we have to thank them for dragging everyone else into the present.
> Tesla may not be the future of EVs Based on what metric? I have a hard time looking at Tesla's sales, revenue, profit, production capacity growth and not thinking they will continue to be a leader in EVs far into the future.
Well, personally, based on Elon Musk's Twitter. Unless he is leaving the company very soon, he's going to take the company down with him.
From a more technical perspective, they're literally the only EV manufacturer selling cars in the US without a CCS connector. (With the minor exception of Nissan, who have already announced that the Leaf will switch from Chademo to CCS.)
And finally, from an "I actually own a Tesla" perspective. I would never buy another one. Not because of the car, which is fine, but because of the service experience. It's awful. It's so bad, I have trouble putting into words how terrible it is. I live in fear that something will go wrong with my Tesla again, because getting it fixed will be yet another nightmare.