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Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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I would also like more information about this phenomenon. What’s the scale of this? For example, how many people accepted a job and then quit within a few days? How did it impact these people’s lives? For example, did this result in increased recidivism? If so, at what scale?

I had a conversation with an HR friend of mine recently. According to her, she is inundated with fake requests for unemployment from people that never worked at her employer. Or people join, then quit promptly and apply for unemployment. This is in California. I would think the state would have protections against this type of thing, but maybe not.

You have to be "unemployed through no fault of your own" to be eligible for unemployment.

https://edd.ca.gov/en/unemployment/eligibility/

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#102

Your going out of business doesn't undo the great things you did for all those people who needed that second chance. Turns out, for instance, Halcyon Molecular was similar, it went bust losing tons of money but it let me get a decent wage after all the employment discrimination I suffered for standing up to torture (false imprisonment, so very similar, had a gap in my resume I couldn't explain because I didn't realiz…

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Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#103

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Perhaps, but unless you want a permanent under class of people unable to find real employment, there needs to be an on-ramp. Either someone is too dangerous to have in public (which case they should still be imprisoned), or they have served their sentence and their punishment is over.

To add to this, 45% of people in federal prison are there for a drug charge. https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offen... Only a little over 1/3rd are actually in prison for violent crime.

>Only a little over 1/3rd are actually in prison for violent crime

On that chart, I was a little bit surprised to see the percentages for:

    - category (g) (Homicide, Aggravated Assault, and Kidnapping Offenses) and
    - category (l) (Sex Offenses) 
...are as high as they are (although probably not that high in absolute numbers) for federal prison. I wonder where one could find a breakdown of the offenses? I'd have thought the only way to get a federal rape or murder sentence would be to commit the act on an FBI agent or other on-duty federal agent (Secret Service, US Marshals, Postman, others?). But I guess maybe soldiers who have been court-martialed end up in federal prison? That might explain most of those? And maybe kidnapping becomes a federal offense if you cross state lines?

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#104

As a current prisoner who is yet to be released, let me say thank you for everything you've done. I've spent the last 9 years around felons and it is sad as most of them never had a chance in life, being born either into an environment that practically guaranteed incarceration, or being born with mental health issues that this nation fails to treat and instead incarcerates.

Just a question, when you do get released, what do you plan on doing? Are there government programs to train in certain areas?

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#105

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The Great Resignation is curious, if I could speculate maybe it was the pandemic bailout and markets bubble (crypto too) making people think "I've got money now!". Now that everything is tumbling down, I wonder if people will start returning to work. Except now most businesses have seemingly stopped hiring yet again (even retail/hospitality?), so I guess whichever way it goes, OP is in trouble.

how large was the "pandemic bailout"? it looked like two checks from the govt and Was this enough to make a large number of people stop working, even now into mid-2022? I really feel like the impact of several thousand dollars would be gone after a year, at most. yet many businesses near me are still under staffed and having trouble hiring.

I don't know how it relates, but I feel compelled to mention the PPP loan program as the largest part of the "pandemic bailout". It was $400 billion dollars in loans given out and forgiven with no repayment, to individual business owners and self-employed persons just as much as corporations. The average "loan" was just under $100K.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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When the economy and job market began storming back, we were inundated with inbound requests for our services. Our perseverance seemed to be paying off. Except now we were hit with a new gut punch: “The Great Resignation.” Now our workers were reticent to come back to work. And if they did accept a job, they’d often leave after only a few days. As in the workers you placed, employees of 70MR? Why would they leave aft…

Going to third the "need more information on this." Are they job hopping, in which case wouldn't that also be a revenue stream for 70MR? Did they find that it was such a sellers' market that they didn't need 70MR's services to get good jobs anymore? I never really understood this "shortage of workers / great resignation" phenomenon to begin with, so perhaps this specific situation would be a good one to use as a conc…

I would imagine the recruiting company that provides the placement only gets paid after the employee has been with the company for a certain period of time.

The same way companies offer a bonus to current employees if they recommend some for hire and they maintained their employment for 90 days or so.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Hi Richard, I'd like to donate towards retiring the debt you've personally guaranteed. How can I do this? Thanks for trying, it's more than most do. My genuine condolences you were unable to maintain traction due to the macro. (agree with 0des' sibling comment, hibernate the effort vs this being the death of it)

Does advertising your willingness publicly make it harder for him to negotiate?

In anice world, it it could also serve as an example and help with negotiating.

Depends who gave the money.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#108

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Back to the way it was pre-pandemic. I work for a Fortune 100 company with great pay and fantastic benefits (I am on a 6 week paid sabbatical right now). But whereas before people would stay with the company for 5-10 years, now they are leaving in droves (not because anything bad is happening at the company, we are doing great) and nobody is sticking around.

Yes.. but we are talking of people leaving after a few days , this is not the great resignation here.

Looking at some of the jobs on 70m I see listings for dishwashers, line cooks, etc. I had these jobs in my youth and saw plenty of people leaving in days or weeks. Post-pandemic I can definitely see people leaving these jobs quickly for a whole host of reasons.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would also like more information about this phenomenon. What’s the scale of this? For example, how many people accepted a job and then quit within a few days? How did it impact these people’s lives? For example, did this result in increased recidivism? If so, at what scale?

I had a conversation with an HR friend of mine recently. According to her, she is inundated with fake requests for unemployment from people that never worked at her employer. Or people join, then quit promptly and apply for unemployment. This is in California. I would think the state would have protections against this type of thing, but maybe not.

The sibling comment includes a link to the requirements, but UI in California looks at your total income for the past twelve months. Quitting after a couple days wouldn't help.
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