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Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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That’s true, but take a look at the zoning laws as well. Some places have better zoning laws than the US and Canada. I think that Japan is frequently mentioned here, because there are only a dozen types of zones and all of the ones that allow housing allow the property owner to rebuild at a higher density. (There are several types of industrial–only zones that give them a way to prevent homes from being built too nea…

That's true, but it's also the case that most Canadians (and Americans) would be very dissatisfied with the quality of Japanese housing. Frankly it's crap -- thin walls, single-pane windows even today, no garages, tiny kitchens with two burners and no ovens... In Japan people are far more reliant on the conscientiousness of their neighbors to maintain a peaceful and quiet environment than people in Canada and the Uni…

That may be true, and it would be nice if people here were so considerate as well... yeah that's not happening.

However the ZONING codes could be adopted to much benefit. The BUILDING codes, I still maintain we need to spec even higher, so that I can have a refuge of solitude from the sounds, smells, and presence of Wheaton's Law failing humans.

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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i predict that housing will become even more unaffordable ... now that big business has financialized housing to a greater degree than ever before, soon big business will be using some of their old tricks they used to build anti-competition moats in other areas--namely, paying politicians and the media to restrict the building of more housing and making housing even more expensive to build...

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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I'm curious people's thoughts about the housing cost political equilibrium/cycle idea.

Here's the theory: Cost of housing is a major issue for voters. Home owners, especially new home owners, want their homes to increase in value to pay off their mortgage / get return on their investment, while non home owners want to be able to get an affordable mortgage. When most Canadian voters own homes (ie today), a politician causing house prices to decrease is political suicide. So the prices increase.

The housing cost should keep going up until, due to continued immigration/aging of minors, the majority of voters do not own homes. Then at the next election cycle, policy will change, and housing prices will start going down again. Maybe immediately due to raised interest rates, maybe slowly due to kickoff of long scale housing development projects.

The question is, are these forces the strongest influence on the housing market? or are there other market forces which disrupt the political equilibrium (and what are they)?

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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I'm curious people's thoughts about the housing cost political equilibrium/cycle idea. Here's the theory: Cost of housing is a major issue for voters. Home owners, especially new home owners, want their homes to increase in value to pay off their mortgage / get return on their investment, while non home owners want to be able to get an affordable mortgage. When most Canadian voters own homes (ie today), a politician…

In the US credit distorts the market equilibrium very heavily by making building new houses far far more expensive than buying old ones.

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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>By the free market alone, letting everyone get a home sounds like a terrible decision Ah, but that's the thing about the free market. It doesn't care, for better or worse. If the barriers to building new houses are low and demand is high, new houses will get built and prices will drop until an equilibrium is reached. >On the other side, letting housing to be crazy expensive, with few people capable of getting a new…

Notably housing shortages are a new phenomenon, we weren't having this problem earlier in the century. The only difference between now and then is we have far, far more regulations and zoning rules in the way. Technically houses are cheaper to build than in the past, knowledge and building materials are more plentiful, and capital markets are more efficient with more banks offering mortgages. So by multiple measures…

>the only difference between now and then is we have far, far more regulations and zoning rules in the way.

Some places have more or less run out of land. For example Vancouver is limited in it's north, west and south expansion by mountains, ocean, and an international border respectively. I believe there are similar issues in San Francisco, Seattle, New York, etc.

Indeed, higher density is the answer... I'm just pointing out that the increase in regulations is not the "only" thing that's changed.

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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What planet are you on? Vast transient encampments?

You have vast transient encampments some places (Fresno, the desert, etc) because the homeless are moved from one place to another and sometimes an encampment gets established and so takes a lot of people a lot of place - but usually the homeless are invisible, yes. Edit: not that the alienation of modern society isn't also a factor but people unable to meet their costs of living (especially rent) is factor that shou…

joe_the_user You have entirely missed my point. I broadly agree with what you say, but why is it that the western world are killing themselves in droves, when 2% of the world's population are homeless and close to a billion go hungry every day. what has gone wrong in the society that is supposed to be the flywheel of the global economy?

San Francisco and Los Angeles have massive transient drug and SMI issues right now. More people died of drug overdoses in SF than of Covid etc.

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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post #104

I'm curious people's thoughts about the housing cost political equilibrium/cycle idea. Here's the theory: Cost of housing is a major issue for voters. Home owners, especially new home owners, want their homes to increase in value to pay off their mortgage / get return on their investment, while non home owners want to be able to get an affordable mortgage. When most Canadian voters own homes (ie today), a politician…

In the US credit distorts the market equilibrium very heavily by making building new houses far far more expensive than buying old ones.

How does credit play into the cost of new housing? Do you mean that it's more difficult to secure a loan for new house building supplies than it is to get a mortgage on an existing home?

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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I’m not attacking you, your heart is in the right place, but your comment illustrates the problem. Housing absolutely should be a profit center. Home and multifamily builders should be unleashed to build as much housing as they can. Let them be greedy; let them get rich. It’ll make housing more affordable for everyone. High housing costs aren’t a failure of the free market - they’re a failure of central planning at e…

The problem with encouraging builders to go hard with few restrictions is you end up with a low-density urban sprawl that introduces a ton of its own issues. You end up with massively long commutes and a ton of infrastructure that now needs to be maintained, and none of that cost falls on the builder so they happily build fields of new homes miles away from work places or services.

look at the far outer suburbs of Dallas or most of the large cities in Arizona for some terrible examples of unconstrained urban sprawl.

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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I'm all for the right to die for people suffering painful terminal illnesses, for the simple moral reason that it relieves suffering itself, and the the cause of much of their suffering is directly the result of surviving long enough, that deep into an illness, because they are supported mainly by technology and medical practices that keep us alive in such a terrible state to where we couldn't end it ourselves if we tried.

However, normalizing death as a treatment option for what is essentially mental illness seems like a modern version of the UK's Blair era "Nudge" policies, where now the ultimate result is the state euthenizing people for compassionate reasons, or at least that will be the pretext, and once it's legal and normalized, it's just a matter of how the papers are filed and the numbers are tallied.

Sure, if you are truly suffering, there is absolutely no shortage of death inducing opioids that will give you a very pleasant end. This government has tacitly already prescribed it by freely addicting small towns to the stuff, and doing nothing about the trafficking from our major trading partner causing opioid deaths.

The part that makes me spitting mad is when you look at the kinds of policies made during the pandemic using truly horrific misrepresentations (e.g. "deaths with vs. of", vaers data fudging, counting deaths less than 14-days of a shot as being from covid and not from vax, "nobody made you do it,"-mandates, "pandemic-of-unvaccinated" propaganda, travel bans for people with antibodies, emergencies act used and repealed before the senate could quash it, orders of magnitude inflated childhood covid death rates, tolerance for allied partisan riots, nursing home packing, internal passport systems, geolocation tracking, unrepealed "emergency" stop and search powers - to name just a few), it's fairly clear they are dangerous and utterly mendacious nihilists, and - what can only be described as "WEF-influenced governments" - absolutely cannot be trusted to manage a "compassionate" euthenasia system.

The housing shortage is related to how this government wants to destroy the savings and standard of living in the country as a means to install permanent technocratic rule, and they are doing it by wiping out wealth and opportunity so as to subordinate the milennial and Z generations to this system. Their messaging reduces to, don't worry, you'll like it, and if you don't, you will just have to find a way to, citizen.

This MAID issue is it's own real end of life issue for an aging boomer generation, but conflating it with prescribing death to the poor and mentally ill (for now) is symptomatic of how bad these people are. It's normalizing the power of the state to do this outside the parameters of humane relief of suffering due to terminal illness, and if you will pardon the pun, that should raise a red flag for anyone.

Re: Canadians Unable to Afford Safe Housing Are Turning to Medically-Assisted Death

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I've lived in Canada and abroad; I've vacationed a few times in the US so I'm amused my commentary is US-centric. The US and Canadian governments are far, far better in terms of hiding corruption than a lot of other ones. But corruption still exists. There's way more cynicism out there than my commentary. And it would be close to the truth of things. Edit: you probably haven't heard about the bodies they recently exh…

Sure. And yet I believe social media is contributing to your mistrust, as many of these events occurred in the past. If you are indeed Canadian, then I suggest you read David McLaughlin's article in the Globe today and reflect on his thinking. Link: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-trust-th...

You mean governments worldwide have had a change of heart since "Social Media" has become a thing, and have changed for the better?

Now pull the other one.

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