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Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I really do not like that because the ban feels fuzzy. If you are a researcher exploring those algorithms and using Colab because you have very limited GPU access of you own, you might now be worried that your very own topic of research will get you banned from the ressource you are using.

It's only banned for the free tier.

Can anyone confirm that it works on their Pro tier and not just their Pro+ tier that costs 5x more a month?

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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It is their right to ban any use they want. Colab is an awesome service, so much so that I seldom use my at-home GPU rig. As consumers we can use or not use platforms like Google, Twitter, etc. as we like, or not. Colab’s ban will be good for small 3rd party GPU cloud providers and that is a good thing. Same thing with Twitter: in the last month there is now better material on Mastodon.

It's my right to yell at anyone who accidentally steps off the sidewalk into my yard, but that right doesn't invalidate criticism and judgments I receive in response to my actions.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Public clouds are separated from their gov versions, with gov versions using older, modified versions of what everyone else uses. public clouds ARE NOT fedramp compliant

This is not true. Google Cloud ‘s FedRAMP offering uses the same regions, zones and binaries and configurations as the regular public cloud offering. Source: I work on FedRAMP compliance for GCP Databases.

For reference, this is also the same case for AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/services-in-scope/

AWS US East-West (Northern Virginia, Ohio, Oregon, Northern California) is FedRAMP compliant at moderate impact level.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I wonder if we'll end up in a future where gaming GPUs will be restricted from running ML algorithms, to prevent private individuals from running advanced deepfakes/DALLE-10 or whatever.

GPU manufacturers have been talking about splitting the GPU market with products that are locked into only serving specific use cases like PC gaming, machine learning and cryptocurrency mining.

That's to say manufacturers want to prevent someone who buys a gaming GPU from using it to mine crypto or for ML, and they don't want someone who buys a ML GPU to use it for mining, and so on.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Is there a good alternative to Colab you can just pay for, that's good for hobbyist individuals? Especially one that gives you shell access? I tried using PaperSpace for a while but it works maybe 1 in 3 times I tried to use it, they (temporarily) banned me for no reason, they send me "itemized" bills with empty line items, and their support was no help.

https://deepnote.com is exactly this! Disclaimer: I work for Deepnote

The S3 integration looks interesting. Do you have GPUs though? I think that's the main appeal of colab and I didn't see it immediately on your site

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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You have proof of these incredible claims - seems crazy to think Google/Microsoft are stealing private data? I know some folks at the NYT if you can provide credible evidence.

Who do you know at NYT?

I know someone who knows some folks there (nobody well known, just professional contacts in IT). But I don't think it actually is all that useful (or impressive, six degrees to Kevin Bacon, right?) anyway, if somebody has actual credible tips that could lead to a big story, they should just go to

https://www.nytimes.com/tips

and contact them through Signal or whatever.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Who do you know at NYT?

I know someone who knows some folks there (nobody well known, just professional contacts in IT). But I don't think it actually is all that useful (or impressive, six degrees to Kevin Bacon, right?) anyway, if somebody has actual credible tips that could lead to a big story, they should just go to https://www.nytimes.com/tips and contact them through Signal or whatever.

I'm sure you have heard the phrase, "accidents happen"? You need to stop having the wool pulled over your eyes, its so naive.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I really do not like that because the ban feels fuzzy. If you are a researcher exploring those algorithms and using Colab because you have very limited GPU access of you own, you might now be worried that your very own topic of research will get you banned from the ressource you are using.

It's only banned for the free tier.

I’m putting down my pitchfork, this makes all the difference. That’s totally reasonable to stop people abusing a free service (to the detriment of everyone else). Same basket as banning crypto mining as far as I’m concerned.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I know someone who knows some folks there (nobody well known, just professional contacts in IT). But I don't think it actually is all that useful (or impressive, six degrees to Kevin Bacon, right?) anyway, if somebody has actual credible tips that could lead to a big story, they should just go to https://www.nytimes.com/tips and contact them through Signal or whatever.

I'm sure you have heard the phrase, "accidents happen"? You need to stop having the wool pulled over your eyes, its so naive.

Good point -- I should stop being so naive and put more faith in the conspiracy theories of strangers from the internet.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

Is there a good alternative to Colab you can just pay for, that's good for hobbyist individuals? Especially one that gives you shell access? I tried using PaperSpace for a while but it works maybe 1 in 3 times I tried to use it, they (temporarily) banned me for no reason, they send me "itemized" bills with empty line items, and their support was no help.

I use https://vast.ai
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