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Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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The pointer stick is a really great thing to have assuming it works well. That said, my muscle memory would be decimated by the lack of a middle button. On Thinkpads, holding this makes the pointer stick scroll, making it a lot more useful than if it only middle clicked.

The pointer stick on my HP isn't as good as the one on a thinkpad, but it's "okay." Of course my HP has a middle-button so the lack of that here is mind boggling to me.

Do you have a ZBook? Those have always had the middle mouse button (probably for people who use CAD etc). EliteBook trackpoints never had a middle button.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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The presence of the buttons doesn't matter much does it? Assuming a tap works as mouse click. Maybe they're there for nipple users - it has one. Use fingers on the nipple and thumb on the button. So to speak.

The third button is usually for scrolling.

Or opening links in new tab, and paste if you use X11/Wayland.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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I think this would make a nice secondary machine for those interested in an accessible Linux distro. Pop!_OS is intuitive and recognizable from a functionality standpoint for newbies and pros alike. I will keep my eye on it, and see where it goes. The price point seems to be at a good place.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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They stuck the Pop!_OS logo right up by the HP logo at the top of the page; I would be astonished if they didn't have some sort of legal agreement to use the trademark.

Is it common to have a proprietary/trademarked logo for an otherwise entirely open source project? That seems a little silly to me but I'm not really aware of what is standard.

Yes, Firefox does this for example. To stop other people building their own products (which could be malicious or just crap) and calling them Firefox. You can do what you like with the Firefox source code, but you can't call it Firefox unless you abide by certain restrictions.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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I want to like this, but I feel like 32GB of RAM is minimum if I were buying a new laptop. I’ve been heavily eyeing the Framework but I’d prefer AMD. This had AMD but is limited to 16GB of RAM… lots of unnecessary tradeoffs being made here.

What workload do you do that 16GB isn't enough? Compiling large database backed .NET projects and Rust projects and AAA gaming all fit fine in 16GB

Virtualization is one that I frequently do. Running a VM to test out programs (especially to test out Windows compat, or macOS if you're feeling up to the challenge). 16GB can barely run an additional VM, and if you have 30-40 FF tabs open, an IDE, and so on, then running with just 16GB of memory becomes very restrictive. Allocating 8GB to the (one) VM would leave you with 8 for the host OS, of which 2GB is going to be used by the kernel/WM, and leaves only 6GB to develop with.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Just get an XPS 13 right now.

Sure if you don’t want proper sleep/hibernate. Dell won’t fix and I’m still salty about it after buying two of them.

Or if you a €2000 laptop where the battery will stop working after a year and a half, only to find out that Dell no longer sells them and DRM-locked the thing so you can't even get a third-party one.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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I'm not going to critique this laptop as others have done here. Just over $1K for a laptop with an 8 core Ryzen, 16GB DDR4 and a 1TB SSD isn't outrageous. The main takeaways I get from this are that HP is now getting on the Linux developer bandwagon, and that they chose Pop!_OS as their distro due to the success and reputation of System76. And I think these are both good things, and a sign that we'll see more of the…

I can definitely see myself using this machine. 16GB is enough for me as I don’t use electron. 8 core Ryzen is decent too.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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post #29

I want to like this, but I feel like 32GB of RAM is minimum if I were buying a new laptop. I’ve been heavily eyeing the Framework but I’d prefer AMD. This had AMD but is limited to 16GB of RAM… lots of unnecessary tradeoffs being made here.

I’m non-tech side and snorted at max 16GB for devs. GLWT HP. Concur with the other comment that said it’s a marketing exercise aimed at decision makers.

I don't get it, you can upgrade it. What's the problem? 16GB is not the maximum possible RAM.

Edit: I meant, you can upgrade it when speccing the laptop. The RAM is probably soldered.

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