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Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by vladvasiliu »

smoldesu wrote: post #86
benchaney wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the recommendation! I'll definitely look into them.

+1 for the Sony XMs, doubly so if you're on a Linux machine. These things "just work" as well as the Bluetooth adapter you have on the other side. Connection is easier than literally any other Bluetooth peripherals I've used.

How's the mic on those? I have the WH-XM3s and boy do they suck. I've never managed to get good audio from their mic, be it on Linux, macOS, or iOS.

I bought them for listening to music, so I don't really mind, and for this they are absolutely great, even on Linux.

Never had any issues with them and didn't have to jump through any hoops.

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by post_break »

benchaney wrote: post #33

I'm currently struggling to find usable bluetooth earbuds. One pair that I found comes flying out of my ears when I moved my head at all. Another is dangerously loud even on the lowest volume setting. The third came with a nonstandard (and therefore essentially useless) charger. It really seems like the entire market is flooded with garbage.

What device was connected when the sound was too loud? Both iOS and Android have the ability to adjust volume limits to minimize this.

Have you tried Samsung Buds+ or the new Galaxy buds? They have incredible battery life and decent microphones. Unfortunately they don't fit my ears so I'm using Airpods 3.

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by theptip »

swores wrote: post #32

I've just initiated a within-30-days return for a full refund of my new Jabra Evolve2 75 headset. It comes with a USB dongle so they definitely won't be claiming it doesn't support PC use, but I don't trust a company that makes such scammy claims and I've tweeted them to say just that. Ah well, I thought I was enjoying my third Jabra product and it turns out I won't touch them with a barge pole again, unless and unti…

Bose QC 35 headphones work reasonably well, good noise cancelling, good enough mic for calls. I hear the Sony NC headsets getting better reviews in the last couple years on at least their NC functionality.

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by mleonhard »

When I receive a call, my Bose SoundSport headphones randomly ring at max volume, with audible clipping. This happens when the iOS ring volume slider is set to the middle and hearing protection is enabled at 75dB. The sound is shockingly loud, especially when listening to an audio book at low volume. There was a multi-year megathread about it on the Bose forums before the company removed the forums entirely.

I chatted with five different Bose Support staff and they all refused to file a bug report. They are happy to send me a third pair with the same problem.

How can we get companies to respect their users?

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

#105

Post by midislack »

jpollock wrote: post #77
grishka wrote: post #73

And then people keep asking me why I have trust issues with wireless tech. A 3.5mm jack just works, with everything, every time, all the time, regardless of any outside factors.

Tell that to my linux desktop which keeps losing track of the 3.5mm jack audio output. I keep having to reset it and fiddle with it every reboot.

Sounds like you pushed the wrong button. If you can't even keep your 3.5mm audio running there's little chance you can work Bluetooth with all its foibles.

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

mleonhard wrote: post #104

When I receive a call, my Bose SoundSport headphones randomly ring at max volume, with audible clipping. This happens when the iOS ring volume slider is set to the middle and hearing protection is enabled at 75dB. The sound is shockingly loud, especially when listening to an audio book at low volume. There was a multi-year megathread about it on the Bose forums before the company removed the forums entirely. I chatte…

Ouch. I'm not sure if this fixes your problem, but on Android I like to enable developer options and disable absolute volume to decouple the phone and speaker/headphone volumes, so I can use the device itself to turn down the peak volume (and hopefully noise floor) no matter how loud of a sound the phone tries to output. This might help ringtones, but probably not sounds generated by the headphones. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be exposed by Apple for iPhones.

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by benchaney »

post_break wrote: post #102
benchaney wrote: post #33

I'm currently struggling to find usable bluetooth earbuds. One pair that I found comes flying out of my ears when I moved my head at all. Another is dangerously loud even on the lowest volume setting. The third came with a nonstandard (and therefore essentially useless) charger. It really seems like the entire market is flooded with garbage.

What device was connected when the sound was too loud? Both iOS and Android have the ability to adjust volume limits to minimize this. Have you tried Samsung Buds+ or the new Galaxy buds? They have incredible battery life and decent microphones. Unfortunately they don't fit my ears so I'm using Airpods 3.

This is iOS. I haven't been able to find the ability to lower the minimum volume, and based on posts in the support forums, this seems like a common complaint that has yet to be addressed by Apple. That said, if you happen to know something that I don't, I'd be delighted to hear it.

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by pjerem »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #88
grishka wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Audio has worked great on Linux for a while. Pulse Audio improved a lot, and now Pipewire, pretty much everything just works.

To be fair, I’m at a point where my audio works better on my personal Linux setup than on my high end Windows Dell laptop at work.

Which is the exact opposite as my situation 10-15 years ago. That’s how much Windows transformed itself into a pile of shit during the last decade.

Re: Jabra denies support for Elite 85t Bluetooth earbuds on computers

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Post by userbinator »

Tell them that Bluetooth is Bluetooth and all implementations should interoperate. Or that's how it should be, and although there's plenty of stories about it not working with specific combinations of devices, "on computers" is such a ridiculously vague excuse.

After updating Macos to Monterey

On the other hand, if I were you, I would suspect that first and go after Apple before blaming Jabra. (Maybe the latter knows that Apple broke something in its BT implementation, and this is their excuse?)

Perhaps someone with this same environment and knowledge of (or is willing to learn) the BT specs/details can try debugging the problem and determine the ultimate cause and possibly come up with a fix. I'd love to read such an article and I suspect many others on HN would too.

(I use BT devices very rarely --- and so far all the ones I did use, seemed to work OK; even the generic Chinese ones with the infamous voice prompts.)

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