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Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

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Post by pchangr »

brtkdotse wrote: post #70
emteycz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This thread (and it being upvoted to the top) is a prime example of why there isn't any Big Tech in EU - because we slam down even fun little startups with this legalese bullshit as soon as they appear.

"legalese bullshit" - you sell a product, you need to handle VAT. Every single business in the EU abides by this, why should a business be exempt just because they're on the internet?

Can you tell me about other countries requiring an impressum? .. I think Switzerland..?

Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

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Post by bityard »

101008 wrote: post #96
mstolpm wrote: post #42

Congrats on your launch! But honestly, your site gives me some huge red flags regarding your service: You don't have a legally valid "Impressum" on fruits.de: It points to fanbase.com and that one isn't even mentioning fruits.de. So, as a German startup, it seems you're at least bending German and EU law by not providing the information necessary for proving services on the domain fruits.de. And as a result, as a pot…

I am working on a SaaS product with a friend that will be mostly a B2B (although it can work as B2C too) and besides all the tech, what I am afraid mostly is all the tax/money/stuff. I am not from Europe neither USA - I'd like only to get paid monthly for the service I provide. Is it difficult? If anyone can give some advice I'd be grateful.

> what I am afraid mostly is all the tax/money/stuff

You shouldn't be afraid, you should pay a professional CPA and/or tax accountant to take care of all of that stuff for you.

You wouldn't draft your own legal documents (I hope), correct? It's no different on the money side of things.

Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

#104

Post by s1291 »

peteconcrete wrote: post #89
mixedbit wrote: post #82

A lot of feedback here mentions tax compliance. Perhaps you could use a company like paddle.com to actually handle the payments and act as a merchant of record for each transaction. This way you wouldn't need to worry about calculating taxes and collecting payments from the end customers, you would still need to handle distributing income to sellers. I'm not sure though if Paddle supports selling such 'umbrella' type…

Thanks for your suggestion. That looks interesting! We'll take a closer look at paddle.

It looks like you're avoiding answering the question related to follow up steps where a customer pays for a thing, and the money gets to me.

Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

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Post by pchangr »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #74
emteycz wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah lol, 24? With the size of German economy it should be 240 or 2400, definitely not 24. (if it was irony then I'm sorry I didn't recognize it)

you're correct 240 if you say well the American economy is 10 times the size of the German (it's a little over 12 I think) but I wonder if we might see that the rate of German unicorns is growing at about the level it should be in recent years, that is to say the disparity in number of Unicorns is more Germany starting late than anything else. Aside from that of course the EU has made it relatively clear it does not…

US GDP is between 6 and 8 times Germany .. so should be like around 80-60 unicorns

But then .. you have Israel who has a 10 times smaller economy per GDP size and still managed 17 unicorns ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

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Post by pchangr »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #65
emteycz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This thread (and it being upvoted to the top) is a prime example of why there isn't any Big Tech in EU - because we slam down even fun little startups with this legalese bullshit as soon as they appear.

The 24 Unicorns in Germany https://www.failory.com/startups/germany-unicorns

The 20 in 8 times smaller Israel:

https://www.failory.com/startups/israel-unicorns

Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

#107

Post by Dand313 »

peteconcrete wrote: post #10
omitmyname wrote: post #4

Could you show an example of how it will look like

https://fruits.de/c/v9kgq ;)

looks good Peter. Take a look at getrevin.com if you are interested in using stripe but having the tax compliance taken off your hands

Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

#108

Post by GordonS »

peteconcrete wrote: post #16
simplehuman wrote: post #9

I am curious about the name and the de domaim

We first launched the service in Germany last week. The domain is not final yet. International domain will follow soon.

Just a note on the name from someone in the UK.

"fruits" is a slang term for testicles, as in "she kicked him right in his fucking fruits!".

I doubt it's the first thing folk would think of with "fruits", but thought it worth mentioning.

Naming is hard :/

Re: Show HN: Fruits – Sell digital products via your website, newsletter, etc

#109

Post by tomc1985 »

andybak wrote: post #77

It sends you a code that expires and there's no way to request another. In general - please let codes last at least an hour or so. I always get distracted waiting for the code and have to request another one - often several times. Unless you can guarantee instant code delivery (which you probably can't) then I am going to go off and do something else and I probably will forget to check for a while.

Why not give the user a login then they can access their content indefinitely?

Time limited codes fucking suck.

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