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Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

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Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

#101

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Had super low Vit D. Was stuck in bed for a year. A few months of Vit D and a few other diet and supplements changes and I was out kayaking every weekend. My experience anyway

What dose and diet changes did you do?

3,000u daily. Switched to AIP diet.

Six months earlier had started. Started magnesium, b12, fish oil, Vit E.

Now I take a 5000u/k2 combo.

Now on LDN in addition That seems to be the final major piece to fully normal life.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

#102

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It seems true without qualification. What you're saying here has a lot in common with "woo", I hope you realize.

I suppose time will tell. I've been doing this a number of years. I will check back in a few more years to see how things are going. Honestly the cholecalciferol levels are the least taboo of the biohacking I do with myself. The more risky testing I did was to see how high I could go on the tocotrienols, tocopherols and fibrinolytic enzymes before I ran into bleeding.

Aren't you concerned that your data is super subjective as you're collecting it on yourself?

It sounds like there are a ton of confounding variables possible, not to mention your own personal biases in interpreting any potential causality.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

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I live in Seattle and have been depressed for a while. I had my Vitamin D3 levels checked via blood test, and they were really low. Started taking 5,000 IU per day, and I feel exactly the same as before.

To answer a bunch of questions: Yes, I had bloodwork done later showing my D3 level in the typical range. Whether that was due to the supplement, or diet, or lifestyle I can't say. I take 1 pill (USP certified) on average 2-3x per week. So not every day. I've got treatment resistant depression and have tried probably everything else you're about to suggest. The only thing that kind of helped was dihydrotestosterone,…

I have TRD too and tried so many things. It sucks.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

#104

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I live in Seattle and have been depressed for a while. I had my Vitamin D3 levels checked via blood test, and they were really low. Started taking 5,000 IU per day, and I feel exactly the same as before.

To answer a bunch of questions: Yes, I had bloodwork done later showing my D3 level in the typical range. Whether that was due to the supplement, or diet, or lifestyle I can't say. I take 1 pill (USP certified) on average 2-3x per week. So not every day. I've got treatment resistant depression and have tried probably everything else you're about to suggest. The only thing that kind of helped was dihydrotestosterone,…

Also in Seattle, also recovered from treatment resistant depression. I recommend looking into TMS. I wish I had done it much sooner.

Wish you luck, it’s been an especially gloomy year here.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

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post #104

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To answer a bunch of questions: Yes, I had bloodwork done later showing my D3 level in the typical range. Whether that was due to the supplement, or diet, or lifestyle I can't say. I take 1 pill (USP certified) on average 2-3x per week. So not every day. I've got treatment resistant depression and have tried probably everything else you're about to suggest. The only thing that kind of helped was dihydrotestosterone,…

Also in Seattle, also recovered from treatment resistant depression. I recommend looking into TMS. I wish I had done it much sooner. Wish you luck, it’s been an especially gloomy year here.

Tried it through Neurostim in Bellevue. Didn't work. Waiting for the Stanford SAINT protocol to be approved.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

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Anecdotally agree with this. I have vitamin D deficiency, was given 50,000 IU a week vitamin D to get it up. Never worked. Went to the beach one week and got blood tested again and my vitamin D levels climbed significantly. Now I make it a point to get outside and sunlight

> was given 50,000 IU a week vitamin D to get it up. It should have gone up significantly. I wonder if your body has a problem with Vit D absorption. I was put on the same dose of vit d for a treatment and I felt it within 20 minutes.

Takes months to rise your vitamin D levels.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

#107

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I suppose time will tell. I've been doing this a number of years. I will check back in a few more years to see how things are going. Honestly the cholecalciferol levels are the least taboo of the biohacking I do with myself. The more risky testing I did was to see how high I could go on the tocotrienols, tocopherols and fibrinolytic enzymes before I ran into bleeding.

Aren't you concerned that your data is super subjective as you're collecting it on yourself? It sounds like there are a ton of confounding variables possible, not to mention your own personal biases in interpreting any potential causality.

It sounds like there are a ton of confounding variables possible, not to mention your own personal biases in interpreting any potential causality.

Absolutely 100% this. For years I was following the scientific method, reading countless papers on PubMed, binge watching videos from micro biologists and eventually reached the conclusion that if I continued down that path my progress would be paralyzed by the scientific method itself. To use those methods properly in a controlled manor would take thousands of years that I simply don't have.

In summary, I have long since dropped the scientific method on the cutting room floor and instead use the "shoot in the dark" or "shotgun" methodologies. I don't have to tell you this comes with many risks, but I have weighed the risks and benefits and concluded that this was the right path for me. Anecdotally I am very pleased with my progress. I have reversed many chronic health issues. I look and feel decades younger than I did a decade ago. That is of course my own biased opinion of which I hold in high confidence. I would never expect anyone else to do what I am doing nor would I try to convince anyone that I am doing the right thing.

As for the original topic of vitamin D3 which isn't a vitamin at all, I stand by my words that the RDA is far too low for most people today given the lack of sunlight exposure, the poor diets, the high levels of stress and inflammation from bad diets and so many more factors. I should add the disclaimer that I am a doctor though most doctors are not really trained in this and what little training they receive in medical school is crammed into their heads and lost as fast as they gained it.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

#108

Daily morning and afternoon exposure to bright light might actually be more important to reducing depression than direct vitamin D supplementation. Low vitamin D might just be an indicator that you are not getting enough sunlight. Sunlight also affects melatonin and serotonin levels, and synchronizes your Circadian rhythm. Not sure why that article doesn't talk about Seasonal affective disorder (SAD), and how bright…

Would wearing glasses, specially blue light blocking glasses make sun's effect on your circadian rhythm less pronounced?

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

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5000 IU is really too much. At best 2000, 2500 IU is good.

5000 isn't too much when you're catching up from a deficiency.

I took 15k IU daily (at the advice of my doctor) for several months at one point to get my levels back up. I don't remember the numbers, but my levels were extremely low.

Re: Vitamin D and Depression (2020)

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I think changing location does have a huge effect. Personally when I go to LA or SF (from Texas) I get sick 100% of the time, without fail.

For some reason I was often sick when I lived in Stockholm (Sweden). A friend there mentioned having the same problem.

Stockholm Syndrome?
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