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Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#102
StopTheMadness[0] is a great Mobile Safari extension to help you take back control of your browser. It offers tons of great user-first overrides, but one of them is “Protect zoom.” It’s in the “Use with caution” section of the options, so I assume there are negative consequences though.

After installing this, I’ve had a much better experience with the web on iPhone and iPad. And I less often have to switch to a laptop to get around some user-hostile site.

[0] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/stopthemadness-mobile/id158308...

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#103
post #56

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Almost all major template for JS frameworks these days include that line. And there are tons of guides that specify adding that in. I get why it's there, if you're building a PWA that is supposed to mimick a mobile app, you have to enable that to override some annoying mobile browser behaviors like zooming on an input. The problem is that the above scenario is about the only time you would want to set the viewport in…

Interesting. I've seen the meta tag for the viewport for PWAs, but they don't usually prevent zooming. Most commonly I've seen: Do you have links to examples of the major templates?

I assume it's something some "website builder" site like wix.com does. For instance, wix.com itself shows "user-scalable=no" in the viewport meta tag if your user-agent is from an iPhone.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#104
iOS has a nice magnifying glass, accessible using a three-finger tap to bring up and dismiss. The little white button at the bottom of the glass allows you to change the zoom value.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#105
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It’s not just accessibility. I’ve last track of the number of times I’ve seen a mobile website with a table that extends past the right side of the viewport and zoom disabled. You can’t scroll, and you can’t zoom, so you can’t read the table.

Another maddening thing are tiny fonts on mobile devices and pinch zoom does not reflow text. So you can't read without zooming in, and you can't see the whole page when you do, so you need to put your phone in landscape mode and drag left and right to read each and every row.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#106
post #2

It’s not just accessibility. I’ve last track of the number of times I’ve seen a mobile website with a table that extends past the right side of the viewport and zoom disabled. You can’t scroll, and you can’t zoom, so you can’t read the table.

that's accessibility

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#107

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For years my optometrist told me I would eventually get presbyopia and then finally I reached the point where I need two pairs of glasses. It is on my mind because one of my hobbies is a cyberphysical artsystem that has a small book of design rules and presbyopia is what sets the limits on feature size. (You can't just tell people "hold the card closer")

Could you explain a bit more what do you mean by "cyberphysical artsystem" ? I have no clue what this is, but the name sounds cool

This fills about 1/3 of a wall in my office

https://gen5.info/$/XQ*42RXF-TLY:$B.8/

and is made of 8″x8″ cards. That's the first constellation I made, most of the output is either stand alone 4″x6″ cards or constellations. I'm working now on my third constellation from images published by Ukraine's MoD.

I've been dragging on my feet about blogging a manifesto for the three-sided cards, first because the system was changing by the day (it was a big thing for me to realize I could eliminate paper jams by printing the back side first) and then because I found hugo is good for anything except things that involve quantitative thinking or artistic sensibilities. I am still looking for a static site generator that's the equal of the subjects I want to blog about.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#108
post #2

It’s not just accessibility. I’ve last track of the number of times I’ve seen a mobile website with a table that extends past the right side of the viewport and zoom disabled. You can’t scroll, and you can’t zoom, so you can’t read the table.

Maybe this is a good place to ask since there's a lot of web devs here:

What is SO effing hard about drawing within the screen on web?! I can't tell you the number of times I've seen this issue. Just the other day I saw reddit's sign up form is totally broken on iOS, you have to swap between landscape/portrait multiple times and hope whatever garbage layout engine it uses redraws the button inside the screen.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#110

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> ... a small minority ... presbyopia ... I think what you just indirectly pointed out is that software is largely written by young, ignorant people who don't appreciate that everyone will get to experience presbyopia, and it happens sooner than you think. Maybe we should require product owners to be at least 40 years old ;-).

I've become "that guy" in presentations who constantly tells people "fonts too small", "can't read cause the contrast isn't enough", etc... My hope over time is that I stop being invited to meetings or people actually take the time to fix their presentations before it is presented to a wider audience.

For presentations, I've observed that constraints on number of slides encourage people to try to stuff a bunch of information at small font sizes on a single slide, often big blocks of text. And they are laying it out on a high dpi screen that ultimately gets scaled down when presenting (especially with screen sharing). They'll have two data points in a small font and massive amount of empty space on the slide. Very few people know how to use presentation tools effectively and most are terrible at information design.
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