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That's a great way to make a program work only on specific distros.
Seems it fits Hare perfectly then, as one of the explicit goals of Hare is to only support non-proprietary OSes.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hare doesn't say "we need no package manager" but instead "we don't need a new package manager, use the one your OS provides", at least from how I understand it.
That's a great way to make a program work only on specific distros.
The primary reason I prefer working in C++ over C is that, for all of C++'s faults, it ships with a solid collection of containers and algorithms in the standard library. unordered_map may suck compared to other implementations, but it's a vast improvement over linked lists or home-grown hashmaps. Anyone can write a hash map, in the same way that anyone can write an HTTP server over a weekend. Doesn't mean it will be…
> it's a vast improvement over linked lists or home-grown hashmaps. One of the easiest things to do is write home-grown hashmaps that perform better than std::unordered_map. I suppose you have to worry more about technical debt / bugs, but yes home-grown hashmaps are feasible and I don't think std::unorderd_map is a "vast improvement".
Do I need to manage memory? Does it manage memory? How do I iterate? How do I add a new key space without thrashing the original implementation and making it twice as complicated?
That's the biggest thing a standard interface gives you. Even if it's less performant and not well-designed, I'll take it.
The C++ containers are actually well-designed and performant so it's a no-brainer if you get to choose.
Almost forgot the type checking you get with C++. That's also a major factor.
Why do people spend so much energy shooting down a language nobody uses? If you don’t like it you don’t have to use it. I would hate to be the creator of Hare and get so much crap for simply daring to exist. He is making a language he likes and wants to use. There are probably some people who like it and find it useful. Good for them! A lot of us have dreams of building our own language. He is following his passions…
I don't get this guy. He's just raging. I agree a hashmap is not simple and Hare's post is a bit naive, but I don't get what's his problem with the language not providing a default implementation. It's part of the language's design. It's targeting people that most likely won't need a hash table. It's not aiming to be a high-level batteries-included language like Java.
Why do people spend so much energy shooting down a language nobody uses? If you don’t like it you don’t have to use it. I would hate to be the creator of Hare and get so much crap for simply daring to exist. He is making a language he likes and wants to use. There are probably some people who like it and find it useful. Good for them! A lot of us have dreams of building our own language. He is following his passions…
We don’t need more memory-unsafe languages with no generics and no functional programming. We just don’t. If it were a toy project for learning and pedagogical purposes that’s one thing but for code that’s supposed to be used in production it’s useless.
That reminds me that I had to reimplement basic hashmaps in C at least three times in my career. What a waste of time.
How much time did you waste?