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The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

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Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

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Love the irony that the "American Conservative" Freedom phone is just a generic phone from a Chinese tech company...

There is so much money to be made selling stupid people things that align with their biases.

Leverging Stupidity ... welcome to my Ted Talk.

Hmmm, do you know what ... time to jump on that bandwagon!

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

#102

Wikipedia has a good summary for anyone unfamiliar; it's a $120 phone whitelabeled and sold for $500. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umidigi_A9

Isnt the entire amazon marketplace doing the same? Marking up cheap white label alibaba products by a couple 100%s and selling it to americans?. And then bragging about making millions with "dropshipping"

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

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This certainly isn't the first example of a sketchy/deceptive product targeted at a conservative audience, and it won't be the last... Grifters have found an easy target in leveraging outrage & persecution fetish, and for all their bluster - their privacy & security practices are typically laughable at best.

As an observation I would note that all marketing I have come across for this device has aimed at people concerned about privacy.

I am concerned when privacy and freedom have somehow turned into a right wing signal.

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

#104
For anyone moderately competent with Android / who uses a custom ROM, the Freedom Phone looks like an absolute joke after 5 minutes. If you look at videos of it from social media influencers, you can clearly see how it's basically a LineageOS clone with apps like "Freedom Store" (Aurora Store) included. It's not at all good for privacy.

(I'm sure if I went back to look at reviews of the Freedom Phone, I could point out another 10 open-source projects they blatantly copied and slapped their own name onto.)

On the point of social media influencers, I remember how one commentator asked if it was running iOS. This goes to show how much forethought and research went into the influencers' demos of this phone. IMO it casts a bad light over all of them (not that I saw them in a good light anyway).

That being said, it is quite curious how many people believed the marketing and bought the phone. It has to be said that not nearly enough overall research was done, and a lot of people suffered the consequences of that (and still don't realise to this day).

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

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post #103
post #36

This certainly isn't the first example of a sketchy/deceptive product targeted at a conservative audience, and it won't be the last... Grifters have found an easy target in leveraging outrage & persecution fetish, and for all their bluster - their privacy & security practices are typically laughable at best.

As an observation I would note that all marketing I have come across for this device has aimed at people concerned about privacy. I am concerned when privacy and freedom have somehow turned into a right wing signal.

"freedom" has long been associated with the right in the US. Concern about large companies asserting their outsize influence being associated with the right is a new development, as is the right's focus on privacy and security.

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

#106

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>Surely I can't be the only one who finds it incredibly frustrating to see how many people think being republican associated is noteworthy when in the context of scary privacy violations. I think the point of the conversation is that this is a bad privacy product that is being heavily marketed towards (technically) unsophisticated people who subscribe to a specific brand of politics. Those two facts aren't unrelated.…

> marketed towards (technically) unsophisticated people it's being marketed towards gullible people, period. as a conservative programmer, I saw the ad and laughed. it was called out by people in conservative online communities as well.

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Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

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post #101

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There is so much money to be made selling stupid people things that align with their biases.

Leverging Stupidity ... welcome to my Ted Talk. Hmmm, do you know what ... time to jump on that bandwagon!

Doing what, don't be a tease.

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

#108

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Couldn't edit on mobile, sorry. https://hothardware.com/news/us-government-subsidized-lifeli... Not the best writeup but not the worst. I experienced this myself.

> There is some debate as to whether these findings constitute the malware label, as opposed to PUPs (potentially unwanted programs). According to Sprint, its own testing has not uncovered any malware on the U686CL.

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

#109
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Anything that includes bloatware is untrustable. No question. Why even bother? You can't seriously run a project like this, add a load of bloatware, and expect to be trusted. Even that misjudgment is enough to understand that the people running this have no genuine interest in user privacy. Talk about undercutting your own reason for existing.

Anything referencing blockchain or cryptocurrencies is a scam. That also applies to the original Signal.

As opposed to what?

If referring to Session, nobody refers to it as "the other Signal", lol

Re: The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy

#110
>It's ok, though, each upload has some sort of nominally unique identifier associated with it, so it's not trivial to just download other people's backups.

This part confuses me. If it matters who ends up with your backups that implies that the backups are not protected. Then wouldn't you be more concerned about access to your backups by the Freedom Phone people?

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